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Okay, So how do you define police brutality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=0.54,4.14"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I do find it when the police step outside the law.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=5.28,8.73"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Step outside the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=9.45,10.17"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Law when they roll on the scene. And because they see a black and white in a confrontation or black in any other race, you know, any minority.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=10.23,22.47"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=23.59,23.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And the race that they want to represent is in a dispute. The first thing that come out is not to try to find out what's going on. He the black man, is already guilty. You haven't heard nothing. They know that he's been called out to a site and he's guilty. And a lot of times that's what happens with the beauty brutality cop. Because now you're coming at me and I'm the one who called you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=24.24,53.22"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=54.13,54.13"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, you know, I might have been the one who called you for this incident. And then you come out and you want to put handcuffs on me. You have an ax, no questions and nothing. And now this person who's the bad guy is standing over here just as four years cop, and it's not good. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=54.65,70.89"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So police brutality, in a way, is it comes with like with racism.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=71.58,78.57"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Racism. That's that's what I see. The whole situation is is not based on the police. Usually they they overstep their boundaries. It's not based on because they say they say, quote unquote, they they were scared for their life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=79.5,98.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=99.4,99.4"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But the guy was way over there and you shot him. So how were you scared for your life? You didn't have no gun, but you were scared for your life. You should have been trained to the point where if he's way over there, your life is not threat unless he has a gun. You know, if he has a good it, by all means shoot. You know, I you know, I respect the public. I know when I was a kid, our police came to our house because when our friend in our apartment building got his bike stolen at the store, and when the police came, we were sitting out on our front porch, you know, and, you know, and it was a black police and a Asian police. And a black police told us to go in the house. And we now going in the house, It's 4:00 in the evening. I'm going in the house. No curfew over here. You coming to see about our friend who got his bike stolen? And so he went in and into the apartment building to see about what the report was, that he came. He shouldn't even be seen. And I felt believe and walked on it. We were all kids, was like 15, 14 years old. And he went in and his partner, the Asian guy, came out said, Hey, man, why don't you just go in and out till we leave? You know, I don't want oh, we're not going nowhere. You know, we haven't bothered nobody. That's our friend that got his bike stolen. You know, we want you to catch the guy who stole his bike. You know, he's out for it. And when that police came back out, we got to walk away from the walk into our apartment, and he stopped, and he said, Do you know where respect is? I told him, Yeah, well, you respected days. And he asked me that I know one another where it was. I didn't know what it was, but I told him. Yeah, I know, little boy. He said, Well, what is it? I said, Do you know what it is? I said, Yeah. I said, Well, if I know what it is and you know what it is, no need for me to explain it to you. And I went to walk away. They grabbed me by my throat, came me up in this war with the little kid. One kid, he picked me up against the wall and his partner tapped him on the shoulder. Say, no, let's go. That can't tell it to you. From a black police to a black. He wanted to show that his power, the power that he had was more than what what was given to me, you know, because we didn't do anything to him. If he came over here and had to record, Hey, man, do ya know who took the bike? We would have talked to him. Normally. He would have got any information he wanted. And when he came and told us to go in the house when we haven't done anything and that's and that type of cop, that type of police is the one that should be taken off the street because he's not dealing with law and law. He's dealing with all as his personal vendetta, the more personal mishaps that he have in his life and growing up. You know, cause, you know, when we look at racism, you know, we were raised at a certain way. We raised a certain way. I remember a little kid wanted to play with my little nieces and nephews. We would shoot the ball and a mother called him to come in the house and she said to Gallo, Grow action, kid, can I touch your skin? And she touched me. And she said, Mommy, you lie, You lie, Mommy, you lie, Mommy, You lie down, rub off and go. So her mom had. In telling her that it was paint that we put on. They just like us, but they just got Pitino instead of telling them the truth there. And they're different. You know, we're not different in and in. We're different in color. We're different from another place in the world, but we're different as we go. Yeah, You bleed blood red eye bleed red. You know, you die from a shot in the chest. I die from a shot which has nothing extraordinary about me. It's not extraordinary about the other person. We are humans. So where did all of this come from? You know, where did all the racism come from? Where did all the people thinking like they think is coming from? The way they were raised up? You know, my mother never didn't raise us to be racist. She didn't she didn't tell us, Don't look at the white man and can't you know, they have words out there. Blue eyed devil. You know, we wouldn't raised like that. I'm I'm wondering if it's like that, you know. But as I got older, I started seeing the racism. And in my mind sometime I said, yeah, he races. You know, you just see it. You know, usually when you walk by the friends, you know, like, oh, we got a disease or something. You know what they say? Leprosy, lepers, celebrity, leprosy, leprosy. Where you walk through the crowd, you know, pretty much that's that's what I think about it. You know, I don't think if it's based on they got a criminal who's really doing something and they have to use more force. Yeah, I'm cool with that, you know, But the guy out here doing something to somebody else, you know, he needs to be arrested. And whatever you need to do to arrest him, I'm cool with that. Now, some sometime they may go overboard by shooting or really hurting the person when they got him confined because I've seen it. I was downtown for quite a few years and I seen them when they had a guy pinned down and all of a sudden police pull out, go, Oh, look, look, look, and just blow them away, you know? No way in the world that that could have been a justified shooting. But they said it was B save the guy being for police on his back. He reached for the gun. Now falling for police on your back. And you mean to tell me none of y'all had his arms? You know, Come on, now. You know, I just was holding him down. Nobody had his arms. That's crazy. So he went to pull one a gun. So they shot him five times. Not one time. Five times. So, you know, it's. Do you see you see, you know, in the places that I live, we see it all the time. You know, I grew up in gang infested neighborhoods. I've never been in a gang. When I walked the street, I got treated like, okay, I was you know, that's pretty much it. You know, I dress policemen. They stop me. Yes. Officer No. Officer. You know, I give them the respect that they have for going in the back. And if you do what you supposed to do, you supposed to get that respect, you know, because you're supposed to be for the community is supposed to be for the people who's not committing crimes. You know, And when you talk to the poor person who's paying taxes and then you talk to craziness. But where did this come from? What did I do to make you talk to me like that? You know, this is an incident where I fought for what you would say, project myself as being hostile to you. You know, a lot of times they'd be hostile to us. And then they wonder why we get hostile back. You know, that's why a lot of these cameras now, every time something happens with the police, you see people, they be putting it all on camera because they know that the police are doing things. You know, even the police are putting them on. Yeah, they putting them on. And then when something happens, they see the camera wasn't on. What do you mean the camera wasn't on? How did they come out to the station without having a camera? So whenever they get ready to do something crazy or brutal, brutal to somebody, they cut the camera off. You know, it makes you really think, is it is it just the officers or is it coming from the top? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=100.5,559.35"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You've you've explained a few different scenarios that you witnessed and then you've also experienced. And how does it look like? You know, what is it that the police officer does in the moment where, you know, they've crossed the line at the beginning of the interview? You define that as breaking the law. So like crossing the line from doing, you know, police duties to brutality, crime. But go on.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=560.76,590.82"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What does it look like? Um, I guess you can't even really put a face on it until something actually. Happens. You know what I mean? How does it look? See, because like what happened with me when I was a kid, I would have never thought that I would have never seen it coming. You know, it was like the spur of the moment there. And then it's there. It's like when the police get out of the car. It's not like you look at em or say who everyone's going to be. It's going to be a handful. It's not that type of look. It's just once they step onto the scene, once the scene is involved, then you start seeing it and you see it right from the beginning. Where do you go? Who do you go to talk to first? Who they go and they put them up against the wall. You know, we're not arresting you, but we're handcuffed. What we mean you handcuffed? I can talk to you without being there.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=592.14,655.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=655.74,655.74"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know where the other person is? Not handcuffed, but it's a situation. So if you if you handcuff one while you're not handcuffed, you know, that's the only way that I can see the end. Because you can't see it. I can't see it from his patrol car while he's driving around. I only see it once he steps into the situation. And then I guess at that time, they determine if they're going to be with. I don't know how it comes or didn't wake up that morning in a bad mood, you know, because I know they're human beings, too. Sometimes they have issues, you know, I don't know, once I got a ticket from a cop on a Saturday that I literally did the crime on the railroad track. But the reason why I told them I was parked on the railroad track. He says this is what he told me. You see, I had to work on Saturday. And I said to myself when I got up that everybody that I called breaking the law would get a ticket. And other words, you know how sometimes you get the warning. He had made up his mind that morning that because he had to work on Saturday, everybody who that broke the law, he was going to write them a ticket, you know. So he went on and wrote Meet his Ticket. It was a 1400 dollar ticket. Well, I started his day. I don't have my license because of that ticket, because I don't have money to just pay, you know, 1400 dollars for note taking, you know. So that kind of stuff, you know, for him to even say that, it made me think. Do they wake up that morning with that type of attitude on your mind? You know, hey, I will get somebody that day. You know, when they look at at the news last night, they saw some crazy stuff going on and decided, well, let me, you know, do something about it. Let me, you know, my my belief in what I feel instead of what the law says. You know, I write to you and your parents is all right. If you don't like black. That's fine and dandy. You don't have to like it. We don't. We're not out here for you to like us. You know what you have to do? Being a policeman is abide by the law. And if the law says this, the law to have, you know, we don't have it in us it. But it's just the law. You know, it says if you cross right here in the middle of the street, you just broke the law. If you walk across it, don't say if no car was coming. You know, so so that's that's the law, you know, But when you step out outside the law and put your own personal belief, that's when I think the brutality that I think is in their mind, I don't think is actually is manifested in the physical world. You actually see people get hurt. But I think the brutality is already in their mind.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=656.4,829.29"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's already they already have they ability.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=829.68,831.51"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e To have that attitude. And I don't know how they're going to see it on the test that the police are supposed to be take, you know, both to take these psychological, you know, tests. Well, are the tests based for that? You know, how do you become a police? Because you are brutal. You know, I don't know. I never took the test, but I'm just saying, you know, it it makes you wonder, why would these police be like and why would it be so many of them like that? Now, it would be different. Every one here, one here when they're when they're but some gang of them, especially out here now, like I know L.A. is not to do coolers and Cummins people here, you know, we're not the real nice people that you walk down the street and everybody say hi to. Really. You know, like they do back in the south. You want to go back south, everybody? Hey, how you doing? They don't know you, but how you doing down here? You can walk down the street to neighbors. You may not never know. I mean, I never say never talk, you know? So is it is it? I think it's something that's embedded in their wiring. Why they're embroiled. That's that's what I that's how I think it lets you know something that's already created an outsider.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=832.07,904.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, So then it comes already, like you with the police officer already knowing how who is it that they're going to address with force?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=905.37,913.27"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They're going to talk in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=913.78,914.33"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A in a situation where there's conflict between people. Right. And and that's where like racism is seen because they will always attack the black person. Right. And then also in that incident that you described where your friend got their bike stolen and the police officer was, you know, aggressive, physically aggressive. But prior to that, in their in the in their voice, how did that event, that moment shaped? Because you were young, you were a teenager, Right. How did that shape your day, your week?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=914.44,947.98"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Didn't bother me from that point on. I always remember that. Yes, I always remembered it. But it didn't it didn't shape the way I felt about police. I just knew that it was some police that were out there that were proven racist and he was black. So his racism was worse. Let's counter turn. He wants to show the blacks where I'm at, who I am. I'm. I'm the man. Yeah. You know, but it didn't it didn't really bother me because like I said, when police stopped me. Yes, sir. No, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=949.72,986.89"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you feel like you're framed? Okay. Yeah. Well, so that's what my next question was like your interaction with cops after that, did it change? Did it discipline?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=987.55,996.58"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, it kept me to where I gave him the respect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=997.18,1000.45"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I've always given in your.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1001.38,1002.43"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Speech in actually giving them to their respective. Yes, officer, No officer have gotten me from not being gotten in jail where I was caught dead wrong with, you know, something that shouldn't be illegal. And and the guy just pulled me off to the side and said, what should I do? And I explained to him, Do your job, whatever your job. He said, Would you say you want to go to jail or not? Don't want to go to jail, but if your job calls for you to take over the jail, then so be it. You know, I'm you court. You know I'm wrong. I'm looking. What do you say when you get wrong? Do you always like we always try to get out of it. We always, you know, like when we go to court, we want to take the plea. You know, you want to do everything you possibly can. Not to say you guilty, but you were guilty in a month's time. You were in court in the first place because you're guilty. Very few times people end up in court this not guilty and have a fight. You know, and that's another thing about our police and stuff. You know, we tell us. They are innocent until proven guilty. But they lock you up first. Yeah. And then you've got to prove that you're not guilty. You know, to meet us backwards, you know? How is it that you lock me up first and tell me that I'm not that innocent? But you put me in jail. But I'm innocent to you. Basically. To you. Prove me guilty. But it's backwards to prove myself innocent. You know what? You put me in jail. You know, so I don't. I don't. I don't dislike them. I don't. You know, I talk to the police. You know, I work at a sober level, manager of a sober living. And the police have stopped the car for the sober living yesterday. Matter of fact. And. They had to come in another car, came and picked up the guy that was in the car that they was arrested. It was too. So I guess they were separated so they could talk. So it was an officer got out of one car, was coming back to the other cell and bring them all. You know, I said, boy, you show hated today. You know me. A couple of my guys, both of them were standing on the porch say, I know you hate it today. And he said, Yeah, it's hot out here. I said, Yeah, I know you would have loved it. Just kept riding around in that air conditioner. And he said, I sure would say, hurry up, bring them. Do get back in the car. And it was a laugh and we joked about it, you know, But it was serious business of what he was doing when it was, you know, that kind of police type politics. I would like to be in my head with the police who God can communicate with. You know, you don't see me doing anything wrong, you know, think I'm a criminal. So you address me as such. You know, now, if I'm a criminal, I'm a gang banger, I'm got the rag out my pocket and I'm standing on the corner. You know, I'm selling dope. But you haven't caught me. But, you know, I'm out there selling dope, and your attitude may be a little different to me than it is to the person who I see just going to the store. And he's not out there selling them. He's not out there doing stuff. You know, I don't I don't think the attitude should be the same. But yeah, they still they can't catch him breaking the law. They still. Hey, how you doing? You still shouldn't be jumping out, hitting the beating on it just because they know they doing something I can't catch.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1002.52,1215.94"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's. Yeah. The way that you, you explain it is like. I like it because you, I, I see how you the, the way that cops address address. Everyone is not the same and you know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1216.75,1232.47"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I know that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1233.0,1233.31"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, you're you're describing it in your story, you know? Mm hmm. So is there anything else you want to add to your question about police brutality?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1233.55,1241.77"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Guy has hit me. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1242.97,1244.23"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Thank you so much for for sharing your story.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945#t=1245.07,1248.1"}]},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56785/file/130945/transcript/49358/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/358/original/open-uri20230830-975320-4ppd4s?1693419459","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/358/original/open-uri20230830-975320-4ppd4s?1693419459"}]}]}]}