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What I'll ask you to do then is just basically elaborate on your experience with citizenship as first generation in the States. And so I guess the first question I would ask you is, in your understanding, what does citizenship mean or how would you define citizenship?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=0.18,18.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I personally would define it as just you identify with a certain country or area. So if somebody would ask me if I'm American citizen, I would say yes, not just because legally I am, but because I consider myself to kind of trying to kind of correlate with the trends like, you know, the way of life, the style, the way of speaking, you know, just different type of things in American lifestyle. So I would just kind of consider myself I'll consider citizenship to be like you just kind of identify with an area. So for me, that's how you define it. But legally, it's like you actually had the paperwork done, you were born here, etc., etc.. So yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=20.43,57.6"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And so so that would be then sort of a definition of citizenship. Okay. What is what is And there's no right or wrong, but what does citizenship mean? How do you experience it? How do you feel citizenship?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=58.95,71.85"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, so you kind of feel like you're a part of something, like you feel like you take part in the way the way things kind of go. I don't know how to really describe it. It's kind of hard to describe, but, um, that's good question because I personally would say right now I don't feel like I'm a citizen because we don't as an African-American person, we're not really treated US citizens. So I wouldn't really know how to identify like how you see how it feels or I it's kind of hard to say. It kind of feels just like, Mm. I really do. I really don't. But it's hard to say how citizenship feels. A kind of just feels like you. You kind of identify with something. That's the only way I could say like it feels. It feels like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=73.77,118.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, it's that's maybe take it. Take it a little slower. Step back. Right. Okay. So. So what do you identify with? Can can you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=120.85,128.38"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Identify with in terms of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=129.46,130.63"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So, so so as far as your definition of citizenship. So it's about like how you identify or wouldn't identify with something. So what are those things that you identify with?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=131.27,140.44"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, I guess I say how I dress. Um, being that I'm Nigerian and my parents, my background is Nigerian, but I was born in America, so I did say African American. But in Nigerian culture, the way I would dress now is really appropriate because it's, I guess to say, like just my students behavior and how I present myself and how I think. I would just say that I would I'm a citizen of America because I'm not too familiar with how it is in other countries. But I know from my experience in Nigeria, like you have an accent, you're kind of you're more loud, you dress more conservatively. So it's like you kind of identify as being Nigerian or being like in an African country or something like that. So in America, I would just say, um, I just identify by like how I present myself and how I behave, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=141.57,194.68"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you elaborate a little bit on, if possible, on your understanding of being African-American? Mm hmm. Having citizenship as far as legally. Mm hmm. But you said that you don't necessarily feel like a citizen or as African-Americans who feel we're not treated like sense.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=195.64,215.11"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. Um. Okay, Well, I guess I kind of just kind of put more into perspective, because when I imagine an American citizen, you automatically will, for me, automatically imagine a white person. And so like, like with the white culture, I feel like they're kind of more together. And as black people are so trying to find that togetherness like that unification, because there's still stuff like, um, white versus light skinned or slim, like just different things that kind of separate us. But I feel like with white people, they just automatically like they kind of just click. And I feel like that's kind of like a unity amongst them. So when I imagine imagine American citizenship, I imagine like a white person. But for me, like I say, I don't identify as like a citizen because like, there's just so much going on within black culture. Black lives like, you know, the movement, the police brutality, like we're still being discriminated against, Like we're not equal as people in general. So I feel like we're still kind of a part of that has a history of, you know, not being seen as equal human beings, as other people. So for me, I feel like, yes, I'm an American citizen, but at the same time, I'm a part of the day to day lifestyle that is imagined to be like an American citizen, like I'm still considered below are not, you know, equal to. So for me, that's kind of how it feels like just knowing that the reality right now is like, no matter what I do in America, no matter how successful I am, no matter how much I've achieved, I still won't be considered that same equal somebody else who's white or who has like, you know, white, like white background or have white or whatever wants to be considered. But I still won't be considered equal. So for me, like, that's what I say when I mean, like I'm a citizen, but I'm not at the same time because legally on paper I'm a citizen, but I'm a part of the culture, like the part of the day to day lifestyle that people live. So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=215.83,318.07"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So. So then in your experience or your sort of your feeling like inside race intuitions does that. Citizenship that you talk about as being a legal citizen on paper. Mm hmm. What does that then mean in your life if you don't feel it? In sort of the sense of belonging? Mm hmm. I guess what I'm saying is what I'm asking is, can you separate those two? I mean, or how do you separate those?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=319.12,354.46"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would say you can, because just because someone like someone says you are, does it really mean that you are like you could you could pay for, let's say, an all access pass to Disneyland, But assuming you get to go every day, like you don't get to experience all the rides every day. So like, it's kind of like the same thing with paper. Like, yes, legally I'm a citizenship, but I separated because just because you say I am doesn't mean I really am. Like that doesn't mean that my life day to day is like I get to experience the same things as somebody who is more privileged than me and gets the experience. So, I mean, yeah, I think you can separate it with some may not separate, some may just say I'm a citizen. So I get to to live out the rights experience, the full rights of a citizen. But again, being black and being a minority, you don't get to experience the full the full citizenship because you're still being oppressed by other people. So you're not really except you don't really have the equal playing field as everybody else does. So that's kind of how I perceive it. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=354.73,410.86"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so then that legal part of it being first generation coming from a Nigerian background. Mm hmm. What does that legal part get you in your own mind?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=411.61,424.45"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Being like, having a multicultural background and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=426.52,429.88"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Then having having legal citizenship, having citizenship, having a paper o having, you know, something that says, hey, I'm a legal citizen. What does that get you? Does it make you feel secure, safe in any kind of way, I mean. Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=430.12,444.01"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I definitely feel safe. Like, um. Like just the paper makes me feel like. Doesn't matter where I go, I can always come back, say, here, like, you know, America's where everybody wants to come from other countries and they feel like this is the place where you can be safe, you can be free, you can live out of dreams. So having that paper, that legal paper to tell me that I'm American citizen, that's a sense of security for me, because doesn't matter where I go, I can still always come back to the place that is ideal for me, where I can really potentially do whatever I want to do, no matter whether I have restrictions set on me or not. So from the background that I come from having that sense of security, it kind of gives me an advantage to sort of say, because I never really have to worry about it being taken away from me because I was born here. Like there's no I was born somewhere else. And I came here and then I got my since I was actually born here. So there's really nothing that can be taken away from me, even though I do have like I come from Nigeria to say it's not really like it can be taken. I don't really I don't know how to describe it as not like it can be taken away from me. So it's just like a sense of security that I have. Okay, Yeah, that's how it makes me feel.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=444.98,510.29"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e As far as far as not being able to say, Hey, you've got to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=510.5,513.35"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=513.78,514.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But the security and safety, the security you're talking about isn't necessarily then doesn't necessarily relate to sort of your sense of safety and belonging. The security you're talking about is a different type of security, right? Or is it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=515.299,529.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, well, I'm yeah, I'm talking about security in the sense that in all senses, like, I feel just being here in America. Okay, I've been to Nigeria, I've been to different countries. Just being there is so much different than here. Like you wouldn't, you wouldn't be scared for your life living in America. Like in some areas you might be. But from where I live, I'm not scared to go outside. I can go to bed without looking my door like it's kind of it's like the sense of security where physical and like, just actually just physical. There's no there's really no other way to put it. Does physical. Like I feel like I don't know that much about how the modes or how it works, but I feel like we have pretty good protection in all aspects. So I feel like security isn't always in terms of physical. So in terms of just physical and how I, how I will live like not living in fear because I kind of sick. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=530.32,589.22"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Okay. So, so if I don't know if you've thought about this before, you've had experience with it, but.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=590.09,598.25"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=600.83,602.0"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's okay. Do you feel that there are certain expectations that your parents have of you as a citizen that you either share or don't?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=602.6,612.77"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, what was the last part?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=615.98,619.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What are their expectations that your parents have of you because of your citizenship, right. That you share And are their expectations that you don't share because of your citizenship?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=619.82,630.44"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, well, because they came here because they want us to have a better life. So I think the expectation that we share is that they want me to do better than they did, and I share that with them because of course I want to be better off so I can support them when they're older and I can support myself. And for the for the family that I have that comes after me, I won't be able to support them. So we share the expectation that I need to come here, take advantage of the education that is so freely offered and the resources are just so abundant and just take advantage of it. And I would say, well, we don't here in terms of citizenship is being able to really do anything because even though the resources are available, doesn't mean that I am capable of taking advantage of them and making something out of it. Like I'm not going to be good at everything I try to go after. I might not succeed at everything. I try to go off do so. I think they kind of I think we kind of failed to be eye to eye in terms of like just because let's say you could go to school during the summer, you can get a degree or whatever. It doesn't mean that I'm going to I may not get that degree. So I think they don't really realize that just because it's there doesn't mean I can, you know, I can achieve it, but it's there. So in terms of it being there and taking advantage of it, we we kind of me I like you have resources take advantage of them but we don't see eye to eye in the sense that I may not, you know, be able to be successful. Those resources are what I pursue. I may not be able to be successful. So that's I don't know if that kind of makes sense. But yeah, that's kind of where we kind of differ, where we kind of are the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=632.99,723.56"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Are there any sort of experiences you have or examples maybe that you can talk about, about the way that. The sort of specific differences in expectations of citizenship between you, you and your parents. Right. Or even expectations. Are there any times where you had to remind your parents that you know those limitations that your parents might have felt? Mm hmm. And then, you know, as a parent say, hey, you know, maybe placed on you. Mm hmm. Are there examples that you can remember or think about? Or did you have that experience where you had to explain to your parents that because of your citizenship, you didn't have those limitations?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=724.65,769.61"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Um, I can remember. And just culturally, the cultural background, they grew up in a really tough environment, like Nigerian culture. In many African cultures, it is very strict. Like you have to wash your parents clothes, You have to walk all the way to school, a few miles to school. You have to go to your father's farm. Like the limitations that they experience in terms of access, like, you know, accessibility and, you know, just being able to do stuff easier. They had the limitations like they were they had to do stuff the hard way. But for me, it's like I can just throw my clothes in the washer, I can put the dishes in a dishwasher, I can just take a bus to school. I don't have to do it the hard way. So I think that went them. They kind of spoke to me and my siblings that we need to kind of uphold the same standards that they did in terms of like respect and having to do the same things that they did for their parents. But at the same time, it's not it's not the same at all because it's easiest for easier for us here because I'm American citizen, I have access to so many different types of things that makes life easier for me. So for them, they kind of expect us to, let's say, wake up in the morning and make them breakfast. So like clean up after them even like, because this is so hard to explain because just the culture is just so different. But at the same time, you're in a different environment. Like you're not in the same environment doesn't really apply. And especially because we grew up differently. So you can really expect us to uphold those same way, like the same lifestyle you have growing up. You can expect us to kind of live that same lifestyle because we're just in a different environment, just doesn't really work that way anymore. And so I would say in terms of like cultural upbringing and just like we just differ in terms of how they expect us to kind of live our lives and how they live their life like we don't have those. Just the environment makes it different. It makes it different. Like we don't have the same type of struggle that you had to kind of say, We don't have the same struggles, so you shouldn't really want to impose that struggle on us. Like, I think my parents, I love them to death, but I think that they kind of don't understand. They don't really want to conform to the way stuff is. And culture is important to kind of retain the culture. But they just want is to kind of I don't really know how to put it, like when you're in a different environment, you grow differently. Like you just kind of have to adapt to that. So that situation, because it was your decision to, to have your kids in America. So now you're in a different environment, you're just in a different place at the same lifestyle. And so they don't really kind of understand that we're in a different like in a just a different area, you know, just is so hard to explain. But I hope you understand what I'm trying to say. Just the gist of it like is just we don't have the same type of limitations or the same circumstances that they had. So it's just really overall different in general and know that makes sense. Yeah. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=771.97,956.71"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I find it interesting that that those things that you're talking about, you in your own experience, you make a connection to it being partly an issue of citizenship. Mm hmm. Are there any has there ever been any kind of experience where you and your parents kind of feel the government differently? Right. Or the social experience of of citizenship has been felt differently by both of you? For example, as a young person or a younger person, did you have to make sense of the government processes right for your parents, or was that something that they figured out for you and then told you, okay, these are the things you should be looking for? This is the way that you supposed to live in the United States?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=957.22,1010.92"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, well, my parents came here before we were born, so they've been here for a while, so I never really had to kind of understand the way government works. So I kind of had to kind of get them eased into the American lifestyle because they've been here way before we were born. So and also I'm the second oldest, so my sister would have been the one to kind of, you know, get them adapted to that. So, no, I personally really don't if I'm being honest, I don't really pay attention to history or even government or politics or anything like that. So I'm like, I wouldn't I would not be the one to go to for that information. So it's it's never really been that important for me to know. But I know, like, now that I'm in college, I'm getting older. I really had to kind of start paying attention and teach myself about that kind of stuff. But if I wanted to, I could ask my dad because my dad watches the news all the time. He knows what's going on. He knows all about government. So he would kind of be the place for me to go to and kind of get that information from. So they kind of already know about it themselves. And so it's kind of like. The roles are reversed are kind of like how they should be. Like they know about the government already, how it works here in America. And then we would go and ask them for more information about it. What did you guys go through? You know, stuff like that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1012.6,1081.19"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. Okay. The situation is that you had brought up was indirectly, I think, the issue of Black Lives Matters and and and politics in that sense. Mhm. And do you feel that anything about your experience being first generation or even getting a sense of yourself as African American has meant that you have had to be political or politically active in a way that you feel like some of your other colleagues weren't in middle school or high school or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1081.5,1121.51"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e MM Yeah, I definitely feel like because I African American, I have to be aware of what's going on. Like if I was Mexican or follows White, I necessarily wouldn't have to watch the news or like, say, for instance, Trayvon Martin or what's another guy? There's been so many honestly, there's been so many. But let's just say Trayvon Martin, when he when that situation occurred, I would person as a black person be responsible for knowing about that. But if I was a white person, it wouldn't really mean that I had to know the details. I don't know. Kind of like you just have to there's a standard that's kind of placed on me because I am the same race as a person who's being affected. So I am kind of held with possibly like, Oh, you don't know about what happened with him. Like, how could you not know? That's that's a fellow brother. Like, you should know about that kind of stuff. So it's like people expect that kind of stuff out of me. And so in terms of Black Lives Matter movement and like having to do stuff my peers wouldn't do, I definitely think that something is plays on me and every other black person. Like, we all have to kind of keep up to date with the events that are occurring. We all kind of have that that responsibility held on us. And even for I'm sorry, even for a white person, that it's also placed on them because they're the oppressor in themselves, like they're the people who are inflicting the difficulties. So that kind of stuff is like, I feel like that kind of affects me, so I probably want this. But yeah, I don't know if, as you're going to say. Yeah, I think so. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1121.89,1225.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So the question is really sort of as a young person, because of those issues, did you have to. Begin to think about yourself in terms of citizenship in ways that you didn't feel other people in your in your. In your immediate networks, head to or in your surroundings had to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1226.33,1252.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, actually, because, um, especially this presidential election, um, with Trump and Hillary, like, I kind of had to find myself more aware of what would happen if one president was elected over the other. And I actually found at one point I was thinking like, oh, maybe I'm going to move to Canada if Trump is elected. And like, so my citizenship is blessed As a black person was being questioned, if Trump won, would I have to actually move to a different place? So I kind of found myself having to be more aware of because of my race and because of who's going to become president, too. Is my citizenship in danger? Like, is there stuff at stake because of just because of the color of my skin and because of who is trying to become president? And so I just kind of had to start thinking about that. And I feel like a lot of my peers, too, they're thinking like, even if you aren't black, a lot of people are just thinking about in general, like if Trump is elected, do we have to move to a different place? And so I kind of had to start becoming more aware of what was going on in terms of food becoming president, like my citizenship. If if depending on who wins, will I have to move to somewhere else? Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1256.21,1325.18"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And would you had have you ever felt that before as a as a younger person sort of in your earlier teens, or is that the first time?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1325.84,1337.15"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That's the first time. I never really worried about it. Like because I honestly, I, I probably this is probably really bad, but I just didn't pay attention to all this stuff like that. And, um, yeah, I never really thought about it before until this presidency.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962#t=1337.54,1355.46"}]},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56814/file/130962/transcript/49461/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/461/original/open-uri20230831-932129-fup1ez?1693517160","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/461/original/open-uri20230831-932129-fup1ez?1693517160"}]}]}]}