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Okay, so I'm on record. Okay, so just. Just say it. Okay. So, yeah. So like I said, I was thinking about it this morning in the shower, and it's kind of like, disconnected a little bit because it happened in lots of different phases.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=0.03,14.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And so, like, um.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=15.54,17.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So I, I never figured myself to be not out. I just wasn't like, advertising, you know what I mean? I was like, Oh, yeah, I'm just living my life. I don't want to put labels on it. I'm just doing my thing. Yeah, exactly. So, um, so it was just like an understanding, my friends, that I had, and it was cool, you know, And it was like, know, sort of operating.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=19.23,44.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Under the, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=45.24,45.74"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The artistic community's understanding that like, everybody's a little bit gay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=46.23,49.05"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you know what I mean? And like, that's right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=49.72,51.69"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So I never thought anything of it. I never thought anything of it. And then when I moved back home and so this is like, much like this was like four years ago. So like, very recently. And I was just like, Oh shit, this is really interesting. It feels like a privilege to be able to kind of like hide behind not claiming the space that I occupied. So I felt guilty about not being out proper. So it's like sitting at the table, like I think eating some pancakes and like my dog's like trying to shake them off my plate. And I don't know, we have some like moms or we started this crazy conversation and I don't even remember what she asked me. But I was like, Well, you know what? Like, I mean, I'm not exactly straight. And she's like, What? And I was like, I mean, I'm not straight, you know? And she's like, Yeah, well, it doesn't surprise me. I was like, Oh, okay. And I didn't really know what that meant. And then she's like, So you know, how like, what does that mean? Like, you know, how do you identify? I think she said she was like super impressed that, like she would even say, like, and she would even say that. So yeah, I was like, Huh, how to get there? But, you know, I come from a really small town and it's like everybody's like st White Christian, like that sort of Germanic norm, Right? Everybody looks the same and like, everyone acts the same.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=52.47,144.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Apparently, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=145.8,146.49"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But um, you know, there's that understanding so that anybody that sort of disrupts that norm is a little bit, um, stands out a little bit. So, so for me to go back home after a much older I'm really going to go by the way, it's like, so then it was really hilarious because I had to explain to her what pansexual means. So she's like, Wait, gender's not boys and girls. And it was like, Oh, Jesus Christ. So then it literally turned into like Gender Studies seminar.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=146.91,173.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e What it was. So it was.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=174.18,175.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Actually this a really beautiful moment to, like, explain all these things. So and she was very receptive and she's like, Oh, that's great, that's fine. So I just got back from the gym and I was like, okay, cool. I went, took a shower and I came back out and she's like, I made you some cookies. It's like, just want you to know that I love you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=175.5,192.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=192.69,192.87"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Was like, I just came out to my mom and I'm like 32.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=192.96,195.81"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right? It just, You made me fucking cookies. Like, I got cookies. Who who gets cookies?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=197.82,203.67"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And I was just like, Oh, my God. So she's like, Well, you know, you have to tell your dad, right? I was like, Oh, they're like, You can't do that. And just, like, get right now. So. So I had to make up like, this huge story about, like, Hey, dad, I have a question about something in the garage.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=204.66,220.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you do anything to like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=221.16,222.73"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=223.32,223.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, like, have a moment. And this was like, Hey, I just want to tell you something. So, um, because it was around, like I say, like pride celebrations and stuff, like in the major city, you know what I mean? That was, that was, is that June with Pride month?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=224.07,240.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=241.71,242.07"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Differs. It's one, it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=242.16,243.15"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e One of them and I want these parties and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=243.3,245.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like yeah it's like one of the summer months, right? Yeah. So I posted something on Facebook. Mom's like, you know, you better hope where it gets one of this, you know, social media. I was like, Oh, God damn it. So and my dad's like, very conservative and like that, sort of, like, back country, like survival, bro. Do you like, with a big beard? And you know what I mean? Like, he's every bit of like, that guy is always wearing flannels.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=245.16,271.56"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And like, I'm going to go chop things up, dude. So you know what I mean? And like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=272.01,274.74"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's my dad. And he was like, It's like, I just want to let you know that I'm so opposed to some things on Facebook and before things get to see you from your friends or whoever stalking me, I just wanted to tell you so I'm not straight.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=275.49,291.51"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So what's that mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=292.6,293.4"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm like, um. Oh, I don't. Just like. Guys for the sake of.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=294.36,302.55"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, this conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=303.13,303.54"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e He's like, okay. And he's like, So what, you're a lesbian? And I was like, Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=304.89,308.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, sometimes I mean, and so, like, having to explain, like, both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=309.18,313.17"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Subtleties to my dad, who literally is just like, you can't even, like, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=313.47,318.33"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e He wants just one answer.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=318.84,319.74"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, He's like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=320.37,320.82"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Understand the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=321.06,321.48"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Fluid? Right, right. So then having to sort of very basically explain like, fluidity, like sometimes people don't exist in this, you know, binaries system and like, people identify in these different ways. And I like all of the people on my spectrum. He's like, oh, so you just you like all the people. And I was like, Yeah, he's like, well, that that seems okay. And I'm like, But I want to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=321.56,345.54"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Fuck all people. Like, do you understand what I'm saying? He's like, Well, I mean, you shouldn't do that. You know, that doesn't.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=345.69,351.48"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Seem like a safe act. And even then I was just like, okay, so that was sort of like my dad's way of being like, Oh, that's fine. And even now and then, like, he'll be like, I always thought it was a phase. And I'm like, No, because like, we're just, you know, a pretty typical thing, I think. And I was just like, guys, I literally been out since, like, I haven't lived here and they're like, what? And I was like, like actively participating in the world in this way. Like, this isn't just like I've decided, you know? But yeah, no, he was great and he is like the first one to come to my defense. And if somebody saw something shitty or and like he and my wife are like best friends, which they text more than we do, like, they're totally homies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=351.72,400.86"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=401.34,401.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And like, you know how it goes. And like, they've always been super supportive. And just the other day one of my mom's friends was like, you know, we're just we're just glad that she's happy. Like, that's all we could ask of our children is to be happier. She's like, Exactly. She's like, Why do so many people not understand that? It's, you know, like also thinking about, like, what this means for, like, my mom and my dad and probably like, these sort of, like, upstanding positions at community. You like, what does that mean to for them to advocate, right? So it's like they're very much doing that work. But, but yeah, like coming out was not something I felt necessarily safe in my community to do, but with my parents for sure. And then like gradually I'd sort of pepper in little comments to friends, you know, that did it now and then and they were just like, Oh, that's cool. Whatever. You know what I mean? And it's just like my aunt, however we talk and she's like, You know, I love you, but I don't support that. So I'm like, So she's very much taken a stand like I call the church. She goes to a cult and everybody gets mad at me. But it very much is like it's very like fundamentalist and like, just like it says in the Bible, like she's you know what I mean? Like that person. And it's like, I'm very close to my aunt. She's like a second mother. So there was that conversation of like, this is fine for now. You can say that you love me, but eventually that won't be good enough. You will have to love me exactly as I am. So that's like a like an ongoing thing that I know is in the future. But my other aunt, she's just like, Oh, honey. Oh, come here. That's. That's beautiful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=402.48,516.9"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Look at my, like, Detroit on the words like you, like literally, that's what we did. So I got cookies and but, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=517.679,525.81"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm like a couple of extra shots where.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=528.66,530.37"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I was gifted, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=531.33,533.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And did you not expect that? I mean, obviously you told me I grew up in the Midwest. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of like, you know, it's automatically that that stigma associated with that particular area for us. And again, usually when.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=533.34,549.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e These like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=550.38,550.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e These stories pop out, there's always that shock factor like, oh yeah, so you really don't give a shit and you know, Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=551.56,558.09"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And I, I think I think I had done the work unknowingly with my parents before I did it. So like, Oh, my grandpa, who's 95, who's like, I don't even think you really understands, like what what that means. But he's just like, Well, that's my granddaughter, and, and I love her, you know what I mean? So. So I was like, Mom, should I tell Grandpa? And she's like, Let me handle this.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=558.93,592.11"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So like, she told him.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=592.59,593.64"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then later, my grandpa and I had a conversation.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=593.88,595.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you feel like you have to tell the rest of your family? Or it's kind of like I want to do that just because I already came out to my parents and let me just. I am. I am who I am. Yeah. Know, like, I'm going to tell who I want. Yeah. Or do you feel like it's an obligation? Well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=597.6,613.28"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, that's that's fair.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=613.85,614.63"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I, I think that I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=617.4,621.28"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Have a very small family, so in there chatting and, like, even the family that doesn't live, like, in the town proper, like in the south and like on the West Coast, man, You know what I mean? Like, they. They already know. Yeah. Just from that alone or like, you know, we'll follow each other on Facebook and there'll be social media posts, you know what I mean? And there's, like, that kind of thing. So it's like I once I like, made, like, spoke it into the universe. It's like my mom, she was just like, you know what I mean? And nothing, nothing happened. You know, I got cookies and I was shit. Let's see what else. So, like, I don't it's not like when it's not like I lead with that information, but like. If it comes up, I'm like, Oh yeah, totally. You're also because, you know, I have a partner and like, you know, that's really important and like, not being like, subtle but not subtle. Subtle is not the right word, but it's also not like I'm like, embarrassed or do you know what I mean? Like, actually, you were fine. This is fine. So, like, having to hide behind something. And you know what I mean? I don't feel the need to do that or that. That is something I have to do.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=621.8,702.74"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e No, I'm better that you get to say it. Yeah, he says she said whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=703.01,707.69"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=708.14,708.14"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Is that's been whatever. But like so I.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=708.8,712.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Heard this is like literally like the family down south and they're like very conservative, like proper southern. Southern. Oh, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. And they're like, I call my mom. Well, we heard Mom's like, Mm. Well, you heard correctly.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=713.03,733.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And then, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=734.42,735.05"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e There's then there's that conversation. They're like, Well, we just love her. And we lit some candles at Mass the other night and just her continued happiness, you know what I mean? And it's very much like about, like, continued happiness. And we love her and this and that. And then I'm like, Oh, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=736.25,750.95"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I hear I'm like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=751.19,751.61"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, like on this side. And that's that's I don't know. I feel like some of that is like Southern culture.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=752.4,758.42"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And some of that is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=758.9,759.68"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Also just being kind of shitty, but like. I haven't felt anything other than support since there's been that very active like. You know what I mean? Even though it's kind of been cracked.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=759.83,777.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, like, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=778.74,780.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But like, yeah, it's but I haven't had, you know, any kind of other than, like, dealing with my aunt. And that really hasn't progressed so much. But like, just that there's been that conversation of, like, I don't support this part of your life, but I love you. So there's not it's not hostile or an aggressive situation, but I'm like, there will be a day when I'm like, That's not good enough for me. So I know that that's impending. But as of right now, it's not I don't feel unsafe. I don't feel like I can't be who I am or like, Oh yeah, this is my partner. You know what I mean? Like, I don't. You know. Yeah, there's there's not that and I know that that's such a common it's a common narrative. And for people that you know, that come out and then they're not safe especially like at home.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=781.07,841.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think it like do you think like the environment in which you're like kind of heavily affects that and which people feel safe or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=842.85,851.55"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Not? Oh, for sure. Like, um. I can't. I don't know what because I've never experienced it. But like being outside of the sort of artistic community, knowing if I would feel as safe as I do, you know, I, I don't know. But it's like part of who we are and how we live is very much about valuing heteronormative value.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=851.67,882.87"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/66","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Binary world. Boy. Girl.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=883.47,885.12"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/67","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. It's like that's what we're like actively working against. So it's like I never like, I knew that all that was there. I knew it existed because that's where I'm from. Mhm. But then like I hadn't been, I hadn't lived at home in like 12 years. So then like that's the time. Like I go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=885.49,902.25"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/68","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Back, I'm like, oh yeah, by the way, you know what I mean? There's these things.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=902.37,906.66"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/69","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So, you know, and there, there were times when I felt like, But I have actually found a really remarkable community at home that kind of and it was people that I was like, Oh my God, for real? Oh, my God. What? So kind of like. Like, reached out, kind of took me under their wing, you know what I mean? Like, like the sort of, like older, like biker lesbians act.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=908.37,934.86"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/70","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you know what I mean? That, that like, literally there's so many at home. And I was like, What?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=935.64,940.2"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/71","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So, like, we.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=941.79,942.66"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/72","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Go hang out karaoke, you know what I mean? And they were like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=942.87,946.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/73","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, yes, Oh, yes. And it was just like, it was just so weird. And I'm just like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=946.44,952.5"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/74","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Have you always been here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=953.19,954.21"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/75","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, Damn, I'm very old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=954.84,956.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/76","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I was in high school, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=956.49,957.57"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/77","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But, um, how do you think we can change like these.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=958.56,961.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/78","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e These known discourses? Like when go the stigma, Like how, how is it that we. When you like her? I don't know. I don't want to say proof, but I feel like individuals who do identify as homosexual, whatever. I'm pansexual, asexual, whatever. Like they almost have to prove themselves in society that they're that way to be accepted, sort of are viewed as an individual. But then again, when someone outside of this community who doesn't understand that it doesn't define who they are, encourage authority, label someone's stuff and nothing more than that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=962.4,1004.62"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/79","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's true. That's true. And like I think even within within like the sort of queer communities, right? Like someone who is like bisexual or pansexual, it's like, Oh, are you greedy? How like, are you changing your minds? Like, oh, well, last time you don't need or like, never being like. Like you're not straight enough, but you're not queer enough. You're not. You know this enough. There's so there's very much that perpetuation within the community. Yeah. Which is super, right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1004.83,1037.56"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/80","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Now that you mention that. Yeah, I've. I've realized that, right? Mm hmm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1038.48,1041.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/81","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1042.319,1042.589"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/82","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Even within the community, you still have to prove yourself that way.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1043.849,1047.869"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/83","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like, what's your. What's your street cred? And I'm like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1048.349,1050.0"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/84","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Excuse me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1050.69,1051.11"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/85","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e No, no, we're not. We're not playing this silly. That's always been something that, if anything, I've struggled with that is like the proving of enough ness. And I'm just like, whatever. I'm just living my life. Yeah, if y'all want to keep.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1052.22,1066.47"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/86","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Track of I, it's that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1066.71,1069.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/87","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But then, like, or because, like, esthetically or like, you know what I mean? With, like, my physicals, I can kind of fly under the radar. I don't. You know what I mean? I don't have, like, you know, I'm like, femme enough. And I'm like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1070.13,1085.01"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/88","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But you know what I mean? But I'm just like, oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1085.52,1087.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/89","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I yeah, I'm not trying to, like, live your fucking life, live your best fucking life, whatever that means for you. And I'm right. I'm good. You know what I mean? So, like, but then as far as, like. Like proving like, like the the nine queer community. It's sort of like. I don't like. I feel like there is that thing, but like. Also like the opposite. Like. Like hiding. Does that make sense? Like. Like maybe parents trying to downplay, like, their kids, I mean, and whatever kids means, like their children's like interests or the way they do things or.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1088.79,1152.53"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/90","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Kind of like they're still in that denial phase or it's just. It's just.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1154.48,1158.35"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/91","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's just a phase. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1158.98,1159.92"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/92","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Or maybe they're not, like, completely. Ah, there's still that little spark of hope or whatever you have. Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1160.36,1169.87"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/93","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And like. And I literally remember my mom saying that. And literally my mom is like my biggest supporter all I mean, and always has been, you know, she's like, you know, I just had this small hope that and I was like, What's that mean, though? Just like, I don't even know what that means. It's like, I just. I just don't want you to have to worry about something else. She's like, shit is fucking hard enough. She's like, And I don't. I don't want people being fucking assholes to change who you are. And just like, I don't mean to be jaded about it. I don't want you to, you know. And I was like, Dude, I know the world's fucked up already. I've been alive for how many years?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1170.53,1219.31"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/94","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what I mean? Like, I know, I know it's shitty.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1219.69,1222.21"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/95","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And, like, also, like, I kind of. I get that. I get the parents don't want, you know, their kids to be made fun of or, like, you know, for them to have had to struggle with just, like, hardship, just like waking up and be like, Am I worthy of being alive? Like, I get that, that. But also, like, how can you give them tools to be like, yeah, I am right. And I think, you know, my parents were really, oh, I'll have to credit my.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1223.56,1255.93"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/96","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Mom because they're like, that's a complicated individual, basically. Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1256.08,1259.92"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/97","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like was very much like you wouldn't be where you are if you weren't supposed to be here. And just like, yeah, it's kind of shitty sometimes because I had a really horrible time in high school and. Like, which definitely played into why I never I was so knocked out in high school, like at all. That was not even an option. Right. Like a rural public school in like, Midwest, Ohio, like. Well, that's a no, that's a hard.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1260.97,1291.85"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/98","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Pass. You know what I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1292.18,1295.45"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/99","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But like, I had enough struggles.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1296.35,1299.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/100","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1300.85,1300.85"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/101","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But then, like, knowing how and like, I don't think like, like coming out as brave or anything like that, but like, like a couple of my my friends, like, came out in high school and I'm like to think about that now. I'm like, okay, But I feel like it's a rite of passage almost. Yeah, Yeah. I mean, I, I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1303.28,1326.68"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/102","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e I think I feel like it's necessary to come out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1326.89,1329.62"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/103","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I don't. I don't know. I, I feel like I still have mixed emotions about that. It's like I think there's something to do. Just like living your life. Yeah. Right. But then that's also, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1332.5,1342.52"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/104","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Not the world we live in.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1343.42,1344.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/105","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It's not. And it's also a place of. A privilege to be able to hide that. Right, Because a lot of people can't or they shouldn't have to. And I think that. You know, almost like literally almost in a move of, like, solidarity. Like, I was like how? You know what I mean? And like, how. You know. Like hiding in my case was very much just like something I was. I was just like, too cool to label myself. And I'm like, That's it. That's a bitch move. You know what I mean? Like, what even are you doing with your life? So it's like, I'm just I'm just doing my thing, but also, like. I had, it felt. It felt like. I needed to claim that space.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1344.62,1407.53"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/106","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So for myself, I needed to have our voice in. It comes out and like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1409.27,1413.44"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/107","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I think that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1414.07,1414.73"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/108","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Practice is very much individualized, right? Totally.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1416.26,1419.08"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/109","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And I don't feel like, you know, labeling yourself as one thing or another is important unless it is for you. Does that make sense? So I, I just, I like, I literally just in my life, I want to be the person that I didn't feel was available to me just to be like, okay, there's I've got all these feelings and I don't know what the fuck any of them mean. I just wanted to, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1421.81,1453.19"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/110","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Get into the universe and it'd be.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1454.87,1456.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/111","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e What it was and like. I don't. Why, though? I don't know what any of this is, you know? So, like. Be like, Oh, yeah, chicks are cool. I mean, like, it dudes are cool too. But also, like, there's this whole other situation, you know, happening and there's so many people and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1456.22,1480.43"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/112","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e They really.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1480.61,1481.51"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/113","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Beautiful things and they're beautiful, amazing. And. But there's that and like, Oh my God. Okay, I'm just how.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1482.83,1490.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/114","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, I mean, like, you know what I mean? And having, like, No, no.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1491.39,1496.09"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/115","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know, because that was very much just a conversation in the community like, yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1497.26,1502.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/116","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And your culture and this culture. Yeah, very much so. So kind of like it's like you're going growing up to where it's there has to be able to everything, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1502.93,1513.85"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/117","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Exactly like I mean, kind of race, gender.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1514.3,1517.48"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/118","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Class, whatever, whatever it is, you have to be placed in a category within the male.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1519.88,1525.19"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/119","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Because we have to make sense of all the.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1525.94,1527.83"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/120","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e All the bits. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just like, what happens if I'm not in one of these boxes like we're doing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1528.61,1534.76"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/121","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Or like, I very much like, live in the liminal spaces between them and it's like that's where I feel like I've lived. Like my whole existence is like in these, like, periphery spaces. And between the overlaps. Yeah, the overlaps. And like, um, literally, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1535.03,1553.84"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/122","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e This.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1554.78,1554.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/123","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Is the only this quarter I've been reading a lot of border theory to like Lorenzo do and, you know, like, all these, and I'm like, Oh my God, where the fuck was this? Like, it was there, but like, I didn't know because someone wasn't like, and it's not like, I mean, these theoretical frameworks make sense of my life, but I was just like, Oh.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1555.06,1572.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/124","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e It's just something that's always been there. These are always have been the discourses to make sense of whatever it is, whatever.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1573.01,1580.21"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/125","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Issue it is. And I'm just like, Oh, there are other people that are living in these spaces and it, it, it becomes not so isolating. No.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1580.75,1589.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/126","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And I chose to be on board with this project to understand, to help people understand those overlap and to take a part of those pieces and to have it out for people to understand. Yeah, basically for sure. Because it's it's I feel 100% like it is those overlaps that people are missing and not understanding and not taking an overall view on it. You're right. It's just very binary. We we live in a binary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1589.81,1620.08"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/127","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e World.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1620.56,1620.56"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/128","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e So that that I think in order to better it and to understand both.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1621.77,1626.35"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/129","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely And literally remember, I tried really hard because I live in a very conservative area, like you said, and there's just it's so there's such a lack of knowledge. Right. So I was talking to one of my friends at work and, you know, it wasn't like like it was the day like the big Supreme Court overruling of the, you know, the thing and the, you know, like, oh, gay marriage is legal, You know what I mean? It was like a whole thing. And I was just like, oh, well, that's that's cool. Like, I don't I don't think of marriage as like, oh, well, it's just, oh, we're in love. So we did this thing. Well, actually, it comes with the whole set of, like, things that are really important and necessary, you know, especially considering, you know, like, you know, like my partner is in the military and there are these things that I can't have access to unless we are married legally. Right? So, you know, there's very much like a whole complication of things. But anyway, so like, um, seeing like this Supreme Court overruling as yeah, it's like, okay, love is love. Yeah, that's true. 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It was basically like, there's going to be so much more sexual sex in the world now. And I was like, Wait, what do you mean? And she's like, Well, now that, you know, they're allowed to get married. 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For me so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1766.24,1768.51"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/139","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Of like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1769.26,1769.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/140","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The ignorance of like, oh, and also like, like life methodologies, rape, like how this woman is like seeing how life works.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1769.86,1781.89"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/141","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e For and what it means to be married.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1782.6,1783.87"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/142","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right? Yeah, I was, like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1784.86,1785.94"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/143","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Kind of heteronormative. Yeah. Oh, all right. You have permission to have sex.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1786.18,1790.8"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/144","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. And I was just like, Oh, I'm pretty sure that's probably not going to change too much. I feel like that's already. Happening just like, Oh, my God. Really? Bless your heart. Bless your heart.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1791.46,1811.07"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/145","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1813.41,1813.62"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/146","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It was like. Such. Like. Like a moment worth. I didn't want to laugh, but also look inside. It was like dying. And then I was like.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1814.37,1825.53"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/147","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what I mean? Like that kind of like, kind of current Jesus.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1827.34,1830.03"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/148","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But it's like, you know, that's the people I grew up around. And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1833.39,1836.36"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/149","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, yeah, And that's why I. Your narrative is the way that I am.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1837.5,1842.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/150","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right, exactly. And like, my brother is great. He's just been like. So, look, my partner is, like, six feet tall. Like, she's very, like, broad. You know what I mean? Like, like basketball for, like, just has a very strong presence. And he's about as tall as I am. 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You've got, like, a good, healthy respect for her, but also, like, um, like never once questioned it. And it's so funny. It's like, Oh, let's go. And I'm like, Really? He's like, I mean, what you want when you're with your with your redneck rose, that's fine. 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Blah, blah, blah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1888.44,1896.46"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/155","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e You know what I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1897.26,1897.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/156","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But. And then his girlfriend's super sweet and. You know, like, I don't know, sometimes there's, like, little glimmers of hope. Yeah. You know, but also, like, you know, and we've all seen the story is a terrible thing. It's not preventable. Just very and it's like I think the more that people know that, like we're we're just like regular people. 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Just like everybody. You know what I mean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1933.25,1940.21"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/159","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's like, Oh, I mean, thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1940.63,1942.76"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/160","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It sounds so good right now. I've tried pancakes, but. Yeah, it's. I think the more you know, right, the less afraid you are. Unless we're talking about the ocean and the smaller and more terrified.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1943.33,1960.01"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/161","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Lives in the ocean doesn't count.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1960.79,1963.88"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/162","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e But what about people, Right? Of course. 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It's just it's.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1968.26,1972.05"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/164","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Like any I like people as like creatures tend to, like, assume something's a little different or like, does it look quite right and sound quite right? It really nervous. Which freaks me out. Like the suburbs. I'm genuinely terrified, like. Over here. It's like in my back. It's like. I've spent most of my adult life in urban community. Do you know what I mean? Like in a city where there's all these things that, you know, these people that don't look like me don't sound like me. You know what I mean? And it's like, that's. That's. That's so much more interesting and exciting and worth my time. Yeah, for sure. You know, so, you know, and that goes the same with, you know, how people identify like your sexuality or, you know, gender identity, whatever that may be. It's like. It's just been. So talked about in the media in really ignorant ways, and I think people get nervous.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=1972.91,2042.58"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/165","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it kind of takes back their comfort and safety. Mm hmm. 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So and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829#t=2050.96,2070.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1731/collection_resources/56634/file/130829/transcript/49323/annotation/167","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 3:\u003c/strong\u003e And showing people with that knowledge. Right. Yeah. Why don't you present? Totally. So. So. Thank you. Yeah. You're so welcome. So I'm sharing, like, your narrative with me. I know it's something very personal to everyone. Something very unique to everyone. Something very individualized. And thank you. Thank you. 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