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So this is going to be a fairly easy type of interview. It's going to be about ten, 15 minutes, hopefully get some substantial things out of it. So I'm going to start off by asking you, what was the first time you heard the word [Unrecognized]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=1.77,17.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was around kindergarten. We were out in the playground and some kid got stuck in one of the play structures. And afterwards I asked my dad about it and asked him if he was Mexican, because at the time I had family members that were really dark skinned and have in my family, my grandpa. My mom's side is really dark skinned and my grandma is white, like whiter, not as brown. So then I asked my dad if he was Mexican too, because I was trying to make a connection with my and he's like, No, he's not. He's African-American.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=19.23,60.93"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So. So your dad was at the playground, too, or this was at school?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=62.01,64.95"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, my mom's an employee at the school, and she knew about it. She told my dad before I asked my dad because my dad was taking me home when she was at a staff meeting or something. So she has explained to me that, no, he's African-American. And I'm like, What's that? Because at the time I really didn't know anything about race and stuff because I don't know. No one really talks about it in kindergarten. So I asked him what that meant and he told me about what happened or like what race was basically, and how I was not African-American and how some people are different because they're born in different places, have different cultures and stuff. So then he started telling me how sometimes they call them black and how that's like how they got distinguished in a way. So me being five, I was confused because at the time still learning numbers and colors, right? So I'm like, But Dad, he doesn't look black like mine. I got like, sort of. Um, well, I guess the industry was coming from res. So then he explained that that's just the word that's been used for a while, and that even though he may not be black, that's what other people call them. And then when he started talking about that, he got into more detail about what's appropriate to say because he I guess he are concerned I'd start calling other people black and stuff. So he said, you've got to be sensitive about how you treat other people and stuff and like how there are certain ways that there is polite ways to refer to someone else's race and like impolite ways. Mhm. And then that's when he told me about how there's bad words that I should never say in front of an African-American person. And then that's when he said there's the N-word. And then he told me that the N-word is [Unrecognized] with the harder and that I should never say that because that's a derogatory word and that I should always just call him African-American. Mhm. And that was when I was five.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=65.37,192.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So when he told you that, like, how did that make you feel or did it feel make you think of like, you know, ways that people might call Mexicans or Hispanics or do you feel, did you feel any certain way about that word when he told you that it was a derogatory term?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=194.38,210.7"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, because I'm sure he told me other derogatory terms for Mexicans, too. But it's like regular curse words not meant in the sense that he just made it easier for me to compare in my head because at the time I didn't know any derogatory word for Mexicans until I went to high school, which is where I heard, like spics and stuff and like, um, well, that didn't really start until later on, but he just made it comparable towards like, it makes people feel really bad. And I know you don't like it when other people make you feel bad, so don't use it because at the time I don't think it would have made much sense for him to describe like how it felt. Because at the time I don't think I would have comprehended much, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=211.06,259.329"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So what exactly happened on the playground that, you know, brought that to your mom's attention?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=260.74,264.76"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Oh, there is the kid in question. He we have like this railing in between like the little land bridge between a slide and like a monkey bar or like jungle gym section. And the kids stuck his head through the bars, and he got stuck there. Hmm. So he, like. I don't know if it was like white enough that his head would fit through. But when he tried pulling him back out, his they got stuck like that. He'd call the fire department and like, grease up his head and, like, make sure he didn't get hurt and stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=265.63,300.79"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So was it a black kid?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=302.02,303.46"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, it was a black kid.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=304.0,304.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So did you just ask, like, what? Your mom, what he was or, like, just the whole situation of him getting, you know, stuck in there, brought the whole, you know, situation of the were the N-word up and how you could call black people or African-Americans.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=305.29,322.48"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e At the time in kindergarten. I knew very little English. So when I tried talking to him after he got out, he didn't understand a lot of what I was talking about. So that's what prompted me to ask me that if he was Mexican. And that's the whole conversation about race and how that came up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=323.44,339.52"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So when your dad told you about, like race, did it make you feel did it make you think that you were different than that black kid that got his head stuck in the the bars? Or did you feel like you're just the same or, you know, you just different colors?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=341.05,361.87"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e At the time it brought to the attention that there were different people around because me being five, I just assumed everyone was Mexican because I was in the part of the elementary school that was like for Spanish or English learners. Because when I was raised, I didn't learn English too, like way later on, like second, third grade. So because of my environment, I was surrounded by other English learners and Spanish speakers. So because of that great majority, if not all of the kids I was with were Mexican. So the playground, the only other time where we interacted with like other kindergartners that weren't Spanish speakers or English learners. So that's when my whole world, I guess, opened up a bit more because otherwise outside of school, my entire family isn't necessarily that diverse. So it's mostly just Hispanics and other Spanish speakers.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=363.22,422.23"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so you spoke about some family member. I forget which side of the family you said, but you said that there's some lighter Mexicans in your family and that there's a darker skin. So did you ever think that the darker skinned Mexicans were any different, or you just thought that it was just their different colors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=422.68,446.08"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Over your family? You know, I didn't think of them as different, just like a different color, I guess. But later on, I, like, realized that my uncle, who was like, he's as dark as my grandpa was. So he had like a harder time with his wife's family because his wife's family was super racist against dark skinned Mexicans. So when he was like courting her and asking her out on dates, like she would eventually become his wife. Right. But his her mom and dad really disapproved of the relationship because they were really strict about our being like white Mexicans, because at the time you associated their skin color with like how their prestige and like society and stuff. So they didn't care. Like if you went to like university or like if you go to the green crap, you saw him, but he was like a dirty Mexican or he wasn't worthy of their daughter and stuff.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=447.64,507.58"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=507.82,507.82"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. So that ran a lot of, like, discontent when they got married. So when they did get married, it was like not a huge announcement, but it happened. And eventually, like, my aunt's mother got over it and accepted him because she got grandbabies.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=508.57,530.2"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So that helped it out. Yeah. So you said that you spoke a lot of Spanish and you were predominantly speaking Spanish until, you know, whatever time. So did the word. Might they ever come up in your family, you know, probably towards anybody else that was a darker skinned or was that something that wasn't a parent?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=531.55,553.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That was never a parent because that's mostly towards like other more indigenous Mexicans, like the kinds that came from like actual tribes and stuff. Because like for me and my family, they're my grandpa is like heritage comes from Spain and my grandma's heritage comes from Mexico. So I was like, her background is like a mix of Mexican and Spanish because her ancestors and all that. My grandma was more of. From Spain. You can trace his background to there. So we never had a lot of like actual indigenous Mexican friends. So I didn't hear that word until like way later on, like late high school when I started studying like Latin American history.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=554.41,605.89"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So by the time you heard that, did you, like, understand, like the meaning and like how it affected people or do you had a better understanding of the word, or do you think it was just something like, Oh, wow.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=606.94,620.33"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e At the time when I first heard that word, it was like one of my first times being introduced to derogatory like Latin American terms. Because normally, like living in the United States, you don't hear a lot of that, that or like you don't hear a lot of derogatory terms outside that aren't directed towards Mexicans because other like Hispanic minorities aren't that prevalent where I live at least. So I didn't hear a lot of slang towards them. But like when later in high school I took a class in Latin American Studies or Latin American history, and my professor talked about other indigenous tribes and other people and how they were talked towards negatively by like the white people that lived there. So at the time he taught us that I had enough, like conscious of mind to know that it's a bad thing to say in front of them. And it's like associated to like the N-word and it's taboo and stuff like that. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=621.94,677.03"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. So just throw out like a dialog. You're saying you're saying them a lot when you're referring to, you know, like maybe black people or whatever. So do you feel that there's any difference between, you know, let's say, Hispanics or just any difference in race or, you know, when it comes to why Hispanics, blacks, Asians.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=677.61,705.28"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We are obviously like the first thing that comes to mind is the food. Because really when I was growing up, the only in my head like little five, six year old me when different years of recently different kinds of food because my elementary school was predominantly Hispanic and Asian. So I had a lot of Asian friends, a lot of Hispanic friends. And when I went over to their houses and different kinds of foods. So the young age, I associated that with the idea of race and ethnicity because like, oh, different race means different kinds of foods. I can stuff like that. 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If they had Somalis and they were like, What's that? And I'm like, Oh, you don't have that. No. So that's when I like it blew my mind like, Oh, not everyone else lives the same way I do, right? You know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699#t=759.01,775.93"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56773/file/207699/transcript/49659/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, So. Well, that seems like pretty much all the questions I have right now. I think we got, you know, some substantial dialog and audio from it. So I want to thank you for doing this interview. And I hope that, you know, we get some good information from it. 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