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KIRSTY With rights.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=5.13,8.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Folk. How would you define yourself as a citizen?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=10.59,16.29"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm a person living in a state, right? I'm not entirely sure how else to answer it.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=17.64,26.1"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Well, the some of the rights you feel are now allotted to you as a citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=28.59,34.8"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Voting the right to look at records. I'm able to cross borders without a problem.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=36.45,48.4"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How would you go about getting your citizenship? How did your family go about getting citizenship?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=51.5,56.93"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I got my citizenship because I was a minor through my parents. I know that my brother, who was a minor, had to go through the same process as my parents by filing an A application and then there by going through an interview and a test. Once it was approved, they were allowed to either change your name, keep their name and whatnot. My brother changed his name for simplicity, but my mom and dad kept theirs and I changed my name. But through a different progress.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=58.22,94.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And how difficult was it for them to go.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=97.77,103.95"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Through that process? Rather than difficult, I would say it was just very tedious and a long process because they had to memorize a few key points like, say, who the first president was, who the current president is, who their secretary of state is, and so on. So they just had to be on point with that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=104.22,131.19"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How was their English during those proceedings?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=133.37,137.18"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I would say that my parents level comprehension and English is. I would say average when it comes to speaking and vocabulary, I would say it's a little less than average, but they do comprehend what you're saying and speaking even in different dialects, they understand it pretty well. My brother, on the other hand, was fluent in English. His comprehension of English was above average. Speaking had a lisp. But I think those from being in different countries and. States. So he just adopted a bunch of dialects and smashed them together.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=139.99,189.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And how about you?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=190.63,191.29"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I didn't have to take a test or go through an interview. So they were the only ones that actually went through the process. I just sort of adopted citizenship through my parents. How about your.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=193.39,205.54"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e English?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=206.41,206.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I grew up, so I was born in Korea, 1997. But I moved to America before I was even one years old. And so I went through schooling and education all in America. California specifically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=207.73,228.97"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Coming from Korea. How did your family adjust?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=234.48,238.44"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's really hard to say because I don't know what went on in Korea and how it would differ in America. I would say that traditions and doings of America is definitely different, like, say, transportation. Most Koreans, although they do drive cars frequently and whatnot, they prefer to use public transport. Whereas where we live, we use more our own personal vehicles. So that was different. The lights were a little bit different, if I remember correctly. We drove on the left instead of the right. Um, I guess our manners were different. I guess our manners are doing, um. For instance, when you approach someone, you have to acknowledge that they were there, that you saw them. Whereas in America, you kind of just glide by. It also has to do with posture. If you're slouching and whatnot and you're in company, then that's definitely a no go. Whereas in America, you can definitely be more relaxed. Like, I know I was reprimanded if I wasn't standing up straight with my hands to like either like this, which is hands together in front of me or to the side. Beer appearances were basically everything in Korea. So it's education. Some people I know I've seen in interviews say that they were regarded or treated as humans by their parents or adults until they graduated from high school and possibly even college. And that's Korea. And in America, you are regarded as a human or you're treated equally amongst peers. Even if you were a child or an adult. Like it didn't matter what age you were, you were still treated as a human being with the aliens or whatnot. And I think that was a little different.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=244.87,378.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so in that moment you were just speaking about we were speaking about the difference between your household and, I guess, general American society. You go a little bit more into depth about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=382.01,394.13"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I wasn't really speaking about my house specifically when it came to those things. I did briefly mention about the posture in regards to my family, but that is a general thing to do specifically with my family. There were certain holidays that we did celebrate in America that is celebrated in America, for example, Thanksgiving. I would say we did have dinners and whatnot, but it wasn't a huge thing if it was missed because most of our family was in Korea. Our relatives and extended family Thanksgiving dinners were basically done with friends, family, friends. Immediate families. Other holidays that we didn't celebrate too much or I would say a lack of celebration in America is Valentine's Day. And I say this because in Valentine's Day, you I know in my younger years we would give Valentine's Day cards and candy to every one of our peers in elementary school or whatnot. But in general life sort of thing, it's not to celebrate, as some people might bring in candy, cookies, some sort of dessert. But in Korea, it is highly. Looked forward to it in such a way where there's even a day or holiday called White Day. It's on March 14th, where the recipient of the gift on Valentine's Day would reciprocate back a gift. It's a very huge event in Korea and I know definitely in Japan as well. Christmas is also huge, especially for Christian based families. My family is super duper Christian. My dad is a pastor and my mom, because of her relations with her husband in Korea. We have a title specifically for that. The pastor's wife and she would uphold specific duties with the pastor. And that itself was given a title which made her somewhat on par as a doctor, but not in the same sense as a traditional doctor in America, but more so a doctor in Korea. In Korea, titles are very important. For example, in Korea, you have to regard your teacher not by their name, but as their title teacher. Same goes for doctors. You don't. You can call them by their name, but only as an identifier. So let's say you have several teachers. You can say their last name and then teacher, the title teacher. So in America it would basically be translated as Teacher Fitzgerald or Dr. Kim or whatever, like that. My mom and dad, because they held a title and because Christianity or religion is important, then I won't say that it's as important now. They go by specific titles and anyone who knows of their titles are expected to give them some sort of respect, which put my family a little bit more under pressure for appearances.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=395.3,636.75"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And how did they deal with that? And I guess the US society, their position of their position that demands respect in Korean society and how did that transition over into US society?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=639.92,656.16"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, they didn't expect any respect from people who didn't know of that kind of culture. So they only expected it from Korean people or people who understood that culture. But they would ask Americans to do that sort of thing with them. In fact, they tried to be very normal, I guess you could say. Like they they wouldn't go out of their way pretending to be like some like big person.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=656.76,693.36"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And how did that translate over to you at school or in your own professional settings with how you treated people?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=695.22,703.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/24","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Because whenever our home, our home was frequented by many visitors, people who would either go to the church that my dad preached that or other associated events and whatnot. Our house was constantly filled with people I didn't know, people who were older than me, adults and whatnot. In Korea, you, regardless of who they are, if they're older than you, you have to show some sort of respect. And because they were coming for my dad and his wife, I was expected to uphold a lot of manners, which aren't really as enforced in typical Korean families as I have seen with my childhood friend. But in comparison, you can say that a typical Korean family who don't hold any sort of titles as doctor, a teacher or someone in which is the term that my parents went by, that was females. That was for my mother. Uh, it was definitely a little bit different. She didn't really have to do that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=705.15,791.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Sorry.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=793.36,793.36"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e She didn't really have to uphold those sort of manners. She didn't have to have her hands in front of her together or have to dress a specific way. I had to make sure I was dressed with long sleeves. My shoulders have to be covered. My back. How to be covered, My skirt. If I wore a skirt, had to be below the knees. And so there were very specific rules and how I had to be dress in front of company. The manners that I had to hold with company was also very, uh, I kind of want to compare it to waitresses and restaurants. They have to be very, very polite. They have to set things down quietly. They have to ask how they're doing and whatnot. So it was very similar in that retrospect.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=794.38,842.5"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then how are you amongst, I guess, students at school or peers or other adults that were not Korean?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=845.23,855.7"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So I mentioned how I was raised and manner and clothing wise and not. But when it's outside of family, I typically just go about ways that I see my peers go as. So I was very casual with my peers, a little less so with adults, teachers, advisors, people who worked and stuff like that. But with my parents company, I would definitely show respect the way that I would be at home. Because it's not just at home. It's just whenever that company does specific companies around that, I would hold that kind of respect and manners and whatnot. But outside of that, I could be very casual. I could wear, I guess, skirts above the knees, but not so much like really short. I can wear shorter clothes and whatnot, more casual.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=857.41,920.74"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/29","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So it sounds like you had to live well. You lived two different ways. Depended upon who was in your environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=924.22,932.05"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/30","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=933.49,933.49"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/31","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e How did you adjust to that, having to make that mental shift? How did you adjust to it?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=934.84,941.98"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/32","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And in what way would you describe it? Like, what do you mean by adjust?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=942.62,947.02"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/33","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, how did you. Cope or deal with that constant type of changing your or reformatting yourself to your environment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=949.15,961.85"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/34","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It was definitely confusing for me as a child. I didn't understand why I was allowed to be so casual with friends and peers, but not with their company. Of course, even with my friend's parents I would be very formal, very respectful, with manners and whatnot because it was just confusing for me as a child to separate that from the company that my parents would have. So in that in that respect, it was definitely super hard for me to separate the two, but it was a lot easier for me to be more casual with people who were younger, who were regarded as adults.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=962.99,1011.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/35","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And how did your family acclimate in terms of the way you acclimated between dealing with different realms? How did your family deal with the different realms?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1013.5,1026.829"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/36","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think in the same respect, where I treated younger people for casually and older people with more respect or manners in some way, they also did the same, but with a different group. I think they separated from Americans, or at the very least Koreans and non Koreans because they don't typically expect it from anyone who is in Korean. We have run across people who weren't Korean but were able to reciprocate those kinds of traditions or manners. For example, we saw a American teacher who taught in Korea for some time. So he basically adapted some things that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1028.03,1079.25"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/37","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Mannerisms and behaviors.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1080.29,1081.1"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/38","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And he brought them over. And when he noticed or found out that our parents were crying, that he would immediately switch over and start speaking in a more Korean or mannerism. So it was definitely dependent on whether or not they knew Korean traditions and ways. And if they didn't know, then they wouldn't think of it as anything and respectful.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1081.7,1112.96"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/39","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Then how about your brother?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1115.87,1116.62"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/40","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My brother, who? He was definitely aware of the traditions and manners that he was supposed to uphold, but he didn't necessarily have to uphold them because he wasn't as. At home as frequently as I was because I was younger. He was six years older than me or is six years older than me. And so he had other duties, school and whatnot. And by the time I was in middle school, he was already finishing high school. And so when he's off out of the family home so frequently, he didn't have to uphold those gestures. And in fact, he is probably the most, uh. Um, I'd hate to say that whitewashed out of all of us. I'm definitely a little bit more Korean. Um, which is strange because my brother lived in Korea a lot longer than I have. Uh, but I probably adapted more Korean, um, traditions and, um, manners than he did.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1117.64,1193.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/41","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you think there's a reason for that?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1194.61,1195.81"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My brother is especially rebellious, and so I can't really speak for his actions. But when he is in certain functions where. When he is in certain functions where he has to have respect, he does he does do it perfectly. It's just that he when he's not there, he's not expected to. And because he's not there as frequently as I am upholding those kinds of manners in front of adults, he just feels less obliged to do his.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1198.54,1241.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e On a note of your brother and your family in terms of tradition, what's the family structure or like the hierarchy of power in your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1245.4,1260.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So when my brother is not of age in Korea, that's around the age of 18. My dad is given the highest power in the hierarchy and my mom is right behind that. So they're about equal power. But if my dad were to command some sort of thing, then he would have the most say in the family. And that's the traditional family power thing. Um, in our family, my mom had the most power because she just knew what to do a lot more than my dad did. She had most of the household. Um, roles, jobs and whatnot. She was the one that dealt with taxes and bills and more so than my dad, which is why she had the higher say. Normally, that's not how things go in a typical Korean family, but that's how it went with my family. Um, because my family had a firstborn son. The moment he becomes or approaches adulthood, my family starts passing down rules to him to prepare him to become a firstborn. Sun child. Rohlfing I don't know what goes on during this time because in The Girl and in Korea there is that sort of gender role thing. So I can't really say anything else much on that matter. But once he turned 18, he began to have more say in the family than my dad or my mom. He would be the one with the higher say. If he said that the family had to move. My parents would consider it. And because my brother is. Not flamboyant and very thoughtful and very. Resourceful. Typically, what he says makes the most sense. So it wasn't anything crazy. Now, if the firstborn son and this isn't my family specifically, but in general, if the firstborn son wasn't as responsible as my brother, they would either kick him off the roll. You would. You would lose the right to be the firstborn son. And what not or not exactly the firstborn son. But you wouldn't have the duties associated with it. You would just be called the firstborn son, and the father would continue to resume the role. Or the second born son, if there is such, would take over. And so it was a lot like that. But with our family, our my brother was definitely the one who was in that role. In fact, he's doing it right now.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1263.13,1454.45"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And. I'll come back to this. But there was something you mentioned earlier about gender roles in Korea. How do they compare to gender roles in the US?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1455.8,1469.53"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e It's kind of similar in the traditional sense of gender roles, where the woman would be the cook, the child bear and child care. It was very much the same in our family specifically because my dad is more on the traditional side than I would say some Koreans around his age and. My mom was actually. At some point asked to not work because in the Korean mind, the father is the one who provides. He's the one that goes to work. He's the one that does all the. Things expected of men. Um, and so I think it's very similar to that in an American sense where women are supposed to stay at home and whatnot. But I don't think it's any other any different except with the additional, um, the firstborn son hierarchy thing and the manners and traditions that Korean people have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1472.2,1551.42"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1554.28,1554.28"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e But we definitely have the whole sports thing going on where girls are supposed to do sports. My dad actually encouraged that because he likes sports. And was like, Oh, you wanted to play tennis? Go for it. I will encourage you and whatnot. But yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1555.0,1571.11"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. So now cycling back to the news about your brother now being in the first father and son position, you said earlier your mother used to be basically head of your family in a sense. How, um, how does it was the transition of power between your mother and your brother?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1572.34,1594.18"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e My mom grew up with it. It's always been that way. She's not the, uh. She comes from a family of eight, I think. Eight or ten. I think she has seven siblings or six siblings, and she's not the first daughter. And so this was very much a thing. I know the firstborn son in her family is currently doing some family stuff. And what he does is he takes entire control of the entire family line. He has the biggest say in the entire family line. And so if, for example. He would have control over the aunts, uncles, cousins and whatnot, because he is the first born son of that entire family. And that includes the extended family as well.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1595.56,1653.18"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Including your family?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1654.44,1655.07"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Not so much our family, because we're part of a different family now, because she's a because she's a daughter who married into a different family line, which is Pak, because she came from Kim's. I forgot the question. Could you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1657.17,1674.5"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Just, you know, the transition of power? Well, okay. The transition of power between your mother and your brother.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1675.91,1689.11"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e So it was just very natural for her because you just grew up with that kind of ideology. My brother was a little less accepting because he was, again, whitewashed and definitely more Americanized. And so he had a little trouble accepting it, but he accepted it anyways due to some family circumstances. It's regarding, I guess, the parents and whatnot. But yeah, you just kind of have to accept it. There was no real safe rehab.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1690.22,1722.13"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And how where do you fall in this hierarchy? What are the expectations put on you? And then how do you relate that to the new society that will not move you, but like the American society you live in?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1724.7,1743.25"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay, so in terms of hierarchy, I basically have no say whatsoever. I can when I was little, I wouldn't be able to suggest anything, but because I'm now over the age of 18, I can. Have some say, but they have the power to completely ignore what I say. I guess there's the best way to describe it, and that's just in terms of hierarchy, because my mom actually dotes on me and my brother also gets on me. I do have some say in a normal family, that's typically not how it goes. And that's a typical traditional Korean family, not just the current family in general. Um, but I do have more say there things that I can do that normal Korean families wouldn't be able to do. For example, I can do extracurricular activities outside of studying. In fact, studying isn't that much of a huge importance in my family, mostly because I tend to get sick a lot. And so for my mom, my health is her priority rather than my studies. Um. When she was transitioning. When it comes to transitioning. For me, it was just very normal. I mean, I was even aware of the fact that my brother was holding up that firstborn son role. I thought it wasn't a thing. It was only until my brother confessed to me around the start of college that I was aware of the roles. And so it was very hush hush. Mhm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1744.3,1858.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And has that affected, I guess the way you live here in the U.S.? How do like your family was transferred over to what you do now outside of the family.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1860.57,1872.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Again, because my brother upholds the firstborn son role, he makes ultimately the big choices in the family. Um. I can typically do whatever I want as long as it doesn't hinder what the family does. So I can go to parties. Respectfully. Respectfully. I can't make a character out of myself If I do go like I can't be too crazy and wild and whatnot. That would be again, like I said, Korean people have a whole image thing that they take into consideration. If, for example. Oof! This is just a topic I came across with my family. But for example, in America, we're very accepting of different genders, not just female and male. Uh, and bisexuality or. Yeah. In Korea, that is definitely not a thing. In fact, if someone finds out that you are gay or the trans, they immediately cut you off from family and pretend you don't exist. It is still very. Not approved of by the older generations and the newer generations. I'm hearing that they're a little bit more accepting of it. But because the older generation is still present, it's still a very hush hush thing and appearances. Whether or not you are a wild party going person or a stunning person, everything is taken into consideration and you will be kicked out of the family if you do something. Not to their approval.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1874.88,1990.1"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So as a citizen. You take on certain aspects of the culture you are around. You're in a position where you have this sort of duality. In your life. How does your, I guess, legal American citizenship and I guess your cultural ties to. I guess, the traditional Korean way of living life. How do they. Where do they meet?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=1994.09,2030.82"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I mean, personally, I don't uphold all Korean traditions and manners. I kind of pick out the ones I like and ignore the ones I don't. A lot of it because I'm not too fond of the idea where people don't have some say in what they want to do or how they appear. I do think that it's important that you don't make a spectacle out of yourself because it would just make problems for your family. I think it's important to be respectful and have manners and whatnot. Um. And all those things, but there are certain things that I don't practice. If I think that it's rude, for example, in Korean culture and like American culture, um, fans are more focused on the idols themselves rather than what they produce. And I'm not too into that mostly because when you go to functions that these idols hold, it's very. Messy and inappropriate even. Loud and firm American compared to American ones. American ones, I think are a lot more respectful to the artists and Idol's actors and whatnot. In Korea, it's very in-your-face, I guess. They're very personal effects. Artists and idols and whatnot in Korea aren't allowed to have a personal life because it might disrupt their work. In fact, if you end up getting a spouse or a love interest, fans will immediately drop you hate you. Basically your. Your your work has ended because you will no longer support that sort of popularity. Whereas in America, what they do is they're supported and they're business, as you say. So that's one of the things I don't like. They highly advertise everything that they do, which is what makes it a little. Inappropriate, in my opinion, because I highly value privacy.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=2033.31,2185.96"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Are there any other things that you feel as though need to be talked about in this interview in terms of your own citizenship, your own, I guess, views on society or your transitions through different forms of life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=2188.11,2213.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, I think it's important to note that I spend most of my time outside of the family. We do a lot of family functions together, so there wasn't any real need to uphold those kind of mannerisms and traditions all the time, which is why, like my brother, I'm more Americanized. I'm very lax and uncreative, I guess, with my peers, friends and I spend most of my time with them, so it's a little bit more easier to be more American, I guess, than Korean. I do practice some things that are more Korean when I am as myself, which is I like to have slippers in the house. I don't like walking barefoot or wearing shoes to the house. I do more Korean based makeups because I'm Korean and so my skin is a little bit different. Um. Like, for example, the foundations, the colors don't really match up with you for me specifically unless I use a Korean line. They match my skin color a lot better than American lines. So I just do a lot of Korean beauty stuff. But when it comes to clothes and what I wear, I do more American clothing. Styles, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=2216.53,2303.84"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then in light of, I guess, this conversation you've had, are there any amendments that you would like to make to your definition of citizenship?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=2308.39,2322.13"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e No, the person is just someone like a citizen is basically someone who lives in a city or a state where. Specific with rates.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651#t=2323.27,2335.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56858/file/207651/transcript/49553/annotation/65","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right, Laurie, thank you very much. 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