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So then the the narrative that that we're interested in is when was when was it that you first heard the word [Unrecognized]?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=1.5,10.32"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e When I first heard that it was not considered using it and going to school and kids, the white kids on the bus, they used to call us [Unrecognized]. You know, we walk in school and, you know, they see us and they just say it, [Unrecognized], where you going? You know? And sometime they would just shoot long shots at us. 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Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=42.81,47.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah. And they'd all yell out.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=47.97,49.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, come as neighbors. And.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=49.59,51.18"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e You know. And had had you had you heard that word? So I guess at that time then maybe was it it was an it was a sort of everyday kind of thing.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=52.95,64.12"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, almost every day. You know, I was about 12 years old.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=64.569,69.67"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So if you can sort of remember back, what year do you think that would have been?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=72.69,76.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e We came out in the forties. Wrong, but 47. I don't know the exact date. 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I'm at his age, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=110.82,116.29"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so then I guess the question would be, how do you know then, that that word meant something negative at the time? 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Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=137.69,144.38"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And it's directed at you. Yes. Okay.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=145.04,146.99"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So so when when the kids on the bus use that word. To to you. There was no mistaking.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=147.83,154.99"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That they were at the venue for a meeting. If you were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=155.95,158.52"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right and maybe the other kids, that you were.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=158.62,160.84"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. We had a kid like my oldest brother, okay? You know, and some kids. We all went to school together. 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And I realized that it really didn't like no breaks.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=177.22,186.07"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/25","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And when do you think it was that you realized that that word ultimately meant that they didn't like drugs?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=186.74,194.35"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/26","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I say two or three months later, he told me that time we realized that because we some latter two areas we grew up with, you know, we all played together the same way, you know. Okay. You playing with their sisters or something, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=196.36,213.49"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/27","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so then where were the kids? On the bus. They called you the N-word where they were telling you to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=217.02,222.69"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/28","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Putting a tag in white. It was makes in a lot of like I'd say we used to live by each other, you know, in a [Unrecognized] certain area. They would call us those name. But around their house they would say that. Really? Right. So because we all played together, you know. Yeah. Once in a while one might call. 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And as parents say that, too. Okay. Right. I really came and I came out here and I mean, a friend of mine came out of movie theater, different ages, and it probably stopped us. And they said, Hey, you [Unrecognized] come here. And I said, Well, while you go that I'm about 16 or 17. So I say, Why you call us that? Is it? So they said, get in a car. So we got in a car. I may say, you know what? You bust it now, I say, But what would we do, you know? And then one guy, the younger guy, he was a younger policeman. And I don't know you because he asked me a question. I leaned over like this. And the guy, the young guy to a point, had me, you know, not good. You know, And so they took us to I think it was Joe like it was that it was like a think of it like a juvenile place. They bring the day. And then we got there, they they they acted different. You know, it was a different part that the Republicans brought us. They all do. You got to sit down, you know. But they wasn't saying that at first. When they first stopped us. You know, they were they they know what you did is doing here. You had a policeman did that to us. 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After they got us in a car, they would say that, you know, running a lot of people, they just can't they coming from, you know. Okay. And then when we got close to the car, they say, you [Unrecognized] get in a car. And I say, well, you call it, you know, and they say, don't get smart neighbors, you know, put us in a car. And then they came back, I think it was on Tampa. 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So at what age then, do you think that that changed not just for you, but for the kids?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=454.29,460.2"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/42","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Maybe about. I was out here at 12 years old, so it's hard for me to say whether it was okay, maybe eight or nine somewhere.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=463.4,473.61"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/43","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. But I guess I guess what I'm what I'm trying to figure out, is it eight or nine? You've got these kids in the neighborhood that you played with. And they called you. They called you. They said, Nick. Right. But at eight or nine, I don't know in their little minds if they understood exactly right. It was sort of like a rehearsal.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=474.34,492.25"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/44","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. I think they parents tend to call us. You grow up. And I don't think they really knew what the meaning of the word. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=493.0,501.4"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/45","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Right. But thought, okay, so then at what age do you imagine that those kids turned into people who actually knew the word and then continue to use the word?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=501.86,514.24"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/46","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I think some of them knew and I think some really knew what they were saying. Okay. A couple of them did. And, you know, they just went along with the older kids, you know? Right. Right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=515.08,525.3"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/47","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then at some point, there's no there's no longer playful. Right. At some point, it means we don't like Slack. Right. Right. Yeah. It's it's interesting to me that even the police officers you're talking about at some point started off as those kids sort of rehearsing. You know, using the word in a way. But then it turns into a real. Turn. To talk about their hate.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=526.63,555.45"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/48","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, sir.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=557.4,557.66"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/49","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And what I'm trying to figure out really with this project is sort of when that sort of moment.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=559.06,563.11"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/50","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Happens, you know? They're not working for a place out here. I was married in Jim, a booksellers and a good guy work where we worked in a restaurant, used to do two cups in a restaurant, and then all of a sudden they called me up and say, Margaret, they say you were stealing wine. I did that. I just started it, you know? Yeah, but this guy, he was a I think he was you call him a skinny back from the South and he he didn't want no blacks in their place anyway. And so they let me go to the next day stealing wine. I didn't steal. Yeah, he did. He the one we were stealing all the time. Yes. There were no blacks in the country, so. Right. Right. I'll never forget that. And I had to get in. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=563.47,619.03"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/51","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e So it meant something more. Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=619.83,620.91"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/52","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e And, you know, I'm losing a job and got to take care of family, you know? What can I do? I can do that. Say, give me my check. That's all I would say.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=621.6,632.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/53","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Do you feel that over time in your own life, has that word become more or less?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=633.23,639.8"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/54","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Probably you don't hear it as much at work. Not too much. You know, only what we say to ourselves. We call each other that now. You know, you probably do, you know.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=642.11,657.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/55","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Absolutely. Right. Have you have you heard that word again? As. As sort of in the the later part of your life.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=657.84,668.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/56","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e That you heard been directed to.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=668.71,670.03"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/57","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Me. Yeah. Or someone else to mean that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=670.21,672.16"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/58","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Like I say, I hear my people say it like, oh, look at each other, you know. Yeah. Some of these I haven't heard that. Not from the white, but not me.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=673.36,684.94"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/59","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e That's right. Yeah. So I've heard the word within the last year.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=686.22,691.96"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/60","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=692.65,692.65"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/61","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Or a white person and.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=693.39,695.03"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/62","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e But. Okay. Thank you.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=695.98,699.4"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/63","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And then you stop this here.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936#t=700.21,702.43"}]},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1734/collection_resources/56776/file/130936/transcript/49350/annotation/64","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/350/original/open-uri20230830-975320-5d92s8?1693418915","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/350/original/open-uri20230830-975320-5d92s8?1693418915"}]}]}]}