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My name is Zeus Apollo. I'm going to be interviewing on behalf of Professor Anthony Russell. Jerry, on the topic of citizenship. Are you ready?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969#t=1.8,16.47"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969/transcript/49466/annotation/2","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I'm ready.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969#t=17.34,17.52"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969/transcript/49466/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Define citizenship.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969#t=19.05,20.37"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969/transcript/49466/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well for most of my life as a first generation citizen. I feel like I can separate first generation citizenship from citizenship. I've been raised really separate from my, I guess, my ethnic identity. I'm Salvadoran. Most of my family is from El Salvador, where I have a lot of family there. But for the most part, I remember always just considering myself an American. So from that perspective, I guess citizenship to me has always felt like. To put it simply, enjoying the American dream and belonging to it. At least that's how for most of my life I was raised to understand it, to have equal access to multiple opportunities. And in that way I feel like for most of my life. I never thought. Race may be less of a citizen, especially as a child. I always just thought, you know. Here I am, a Salvadoran male who was more on the lighter skin tone. People confuse me for white sometimes, but you know, I'm okay with that. I don't really mind. Nobody seems to treat me differently. Sure, I speak Spanish, but I'm a citizen, right? That's how I've always viewed it. But as I've grown older, I feel like it's not as black and white as I once thought it to be. Citizenship to me now is indeed. Having access to equal opportunities. That's not how it is. In reality, I feel like citizenship in the United States. In reality, my perspective is. Is being a part of the whole. Where different people have different amounts of access to important things, such as whether minority rights are being taken into account by politicians or whether. People are as equally motivated to do things because. They feel like as a minority, they won't feel. That they're being taken to account. And that the majority and those those are the rich white majority you like. At the end of the day, it's more of a conflict theory kind of struggle where everyone just like tries to maintain their grip on America and those who aren't the majority kind of get rolled over in the process. And that's how I look at citizenship now. Ideally, it is equal opportunity here and the Americans like the American living life, the dream. That's not how it is in reality. It's how I want it to be at home. I know most people, I think, want it to be, but that's not how it is. That's kind of what I think citizenship is.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969#t=22.58,196.07"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969/transcript/49466/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Based on that. Do you feel that you've been a first generation citizen? Has affected your perspective in your everyday life here in the U.S.?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969#t=199.01,210.95"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969/transcript/49466/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah, I definitely think so. I mean, it most of it really has to do in regard to that question. How that's affecting my perspective of it has to do with like how I've grown up and I kind of gain a broader perspective of how things work. So I'm a Salvadoran American and I was born really late. Black hair, brown eyes, white skin. I looked white, putting it simply. And most of my family, my close personal family does. So with that in mind. It's become. I guess as a child, it didn't really affect me too much. My mom has always acted. Guess American. She she immigrated here from El Salvador when she was like. 18. And though she has a great love for her country, she considers it like she considers herself like a Salvadoran at heart. She's always told me how important it is to be American, and she's always emphasized America. I mean, her favorite food growing up was Propose US. And I got to do the race and all these Latino foods. But growing up and all up, she made it a point to do this. But my favorite foods for her are hamburgers and hot dogs and fries. And I ate a lot of American food in my house. So there was that distinct separation of culture. So when it came down to it as a child, I really just kind of thought myself no different from nobody else. I thought I was the same as everybody. So in that regard, I thought, you know, this is this is America where we can all be whatever. We're all fine. You know, we can be whatever we want to be. And in that way, I think I was and I was naive. I mean, I thought I wanted to be an MLB Dodger player, and I thought I had the same access to that. But, you know, you grow up and. Things kind of start to change. I remember the first time as a Salvadoran where there was this lady walking by my middle school or just relaxing by, you know, by the gate. Just having the time of the old white lady and she comes up to us and she says the most expletive things to me in my group of friends. She calls our black friend amongst us like a [Unrecognized], and she calls me. She just basically tells me to go back to my country. And. She just didn't stop until security had to escort her away. You know. And in that moment I was like, Oh, what? What's going on? Like, why is this old lady coming up to the front gate and just cursing at all of us? And when security try disclosure. She has walked around to the other side of the gate and she kept yelling and she kept saying like. Them. People need to go away. At that moment, I was like, Huh? And I don't know what she means by that. So I went home. I asked my mom. My mom gave me a hug and she said, you know, that's all right. You know, you're safe now. Know, I made it a big deal. And I knew there was something really wrong with that, all of that. So I guess I kind of gained a little bit perspective there that I'm not the same as she is or she doesn't look at me as the same as her. And I think that's when I first started to realize that citizenship wasn't as as black and white as I thought it was. We don't all have the same opportunities. We don't all have the same treatment. So with that in mind since then, how it's affected my life, how it's affected how I perceive the world? Well, it's made me honestly very cynical. Cynical of a lot of things in life, cynical of the American dream, which I once thought was it was was very capable, cynical of my own opportunities in life. Cynical of how people look at each other and how people perceive many things. Even religion would become one of the most cynical people, I think growing up and having more like more and more of these experiences where. I've come to conclusions. That maybe aren't realistically rational or logical, but. I have nonetheless, and it's really hard to just dismiss them where I look at some of my close friends and. Some of them are Pakistani dark skinned and left for the current situation going on right now where people are discriminating just on that. I feel genuinely bad for him because he has dreams and I want him to succeed. And I look at my other friend who's who's really white and I look at him and I see the opportunities he's been given, you know, internships at video gaming corporations already blizzard, he's developing he's following his dream and know he's he's doing really well for himself. I look at my friend. Who's been kind of discriminated all his life and has been living in a really small apartment and taking care of his brothers. And and I can't help but think that things are just going to be so much more difficult for him than it is for me. For my my, my white friend. So as for how I perceive citizenship. It's not fair. No, we are giving. This dream once we get in and were raised as a first generation so that we're given the dream. Things are going to be okay. You're a citizen, you know. And your parents, you know, my parents, being former immigrants, recently got everything in order. Being former immigrants. They're really trying, you know. Really trying They're trying to to be two to become American and 100% of the way that they think an American is. And and it's kind of funny to see them try that. I'm not trying to say that in a bad way, but in a funny, weird way. Um, my mom, I think her ideal citizen or her ideal American, are those people you see off of reality shows, like the shows you see on Bravo, the Bravo Network and stuff like that. She sees these rich white women who are full of drama and gossip and and she thinks, Oh, I wish that were me. And she mentions this all the time to me. And honestly, it doesn't sound like a joke when she says it because of how many times she says it. Kind of how serious this. She's like, I wish I were those women on TV with elegant dresses and expensive glasses of wine. I love wine. Um, and I would have my rich white friends who would gossip, and we'd have we'd be married to plastic surgeons, you know, And I look 50, but if I were them, I'd look 30. And I feel like she's really romanticized it. And my dad, too. I mean, he only shops at high class American stores despite him not having as much money as he thinks he does, he goes and he spends easily like $150 on clothes at places like Abercrombie and Fitch, Brooks Brothers and and things like that. And that's what he thinks in American is, I think is I like to be wealthy, to look good and wear expensive watches and expensive shoes, boat shoes and things like that. And I look at that and. I don't know how to feel about that. So when it comes to citizenship, I can't help but think that, like, you come in with this dream. But as you kind of slowly comes to reality, that the dream isn't what you think it is. You try to imagine yourself in that dream. Picture yourself as as a citizen and you integrate that to yourself and you'll even go as far as paying a lot of money to be more American, hoping that your ideals for aspects will be good enough. And it never is. Because no matter how much money my dad spends on fancy clothes, he's never going to go from a factory worker to that 9 to 5 job and big business like he wants. And my mom's never going to be a millionaire. A housewife whose husband is a plastic surgeon, no matter how white she tries to be or how she tries to integrate that that valley girl accent into her into her life. And I'm never going to be able to completely synthesize myself, for lack of a better word, because every time I see a friend of mine or I see myself and I push myself in, in those opportunities, I can't help but think that some white guy or someone of wealth is going to come and rip that opportunity away from me. Right. Most of my life I want to be a lawyer. And honestly, it's because I want to give back to the community. But when you acknowledge that law school is leaves you $200,000 in debt with low chances of getting a job. Added on to the fact that, you know, you're not the only one competing in this this job market. And there's a lot of other rich white boys able to shrug off the debt and get jobs thanks to their connections. And that just lessens the job market. And really. You know, it removes that opportunity for you. It's kind of made me want to give up on my dream and I want to give up on it because I don't know if I'm going to do it. And that hurts to say when you love something so much, but you feel like regardless of being a citizen, those opportunities are being removed from you. And as a first generation citizen, it's like my parents had these huge expectations of me to be better than they are to fulfill the ideal American image that they have. And you can't do it. It's not fun. It's put me through a bit of a life crisis. Honestly, I didn't know what to do anymore. I thought. I thought I could get over those barriers. But then what? The closer those barriers get, scarier gets. So that's for how it affects my life and my perspective. It's made me more cynical and short. And it's made me feel like a lot of the opportunities I will ever have won't ever really be there. And maybe I'm just imagining that. Maybe I'm just hoping that I can get over it. That's really how I think about that.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969#t=213.58,883.61"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56823/file/130969/transcript/49466/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Well, thank you very much. Um, again, June 5th. Time is 3:52 p.m.. Ending up recording? 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