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Just feeling defining it. Well, there's a lot of ways to define it, but I feel like just having just feeling free, like feeling free and not worrying about having to worry to, like, feel neglected just because that is because I don't have my citizenship. And I just feel welcomed. I feel I feel accepted just because I have my citizenship. So I guess I would like define it as kind of like, I don't know, I don't really know how to find it, like having the right to live here. I think.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=6.72,62.47"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/3","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Having that safety.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=62.58,63.03"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Having the safety of having the safety to call the U.S. my home because I'm a citizen. So like having the reassurance that I'm like, I can't like, I'm here, I'm I'm safe because I'm a citizen. I guess you would say put into perspective, you know?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=63.63,79.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Yeah.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=79.92,79.92"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Feeling freedom just because I'm a citizen. Because I have a citizen, you know, because my mom, when she didn't have her citizenship, when she was illegal, she never felt safe. She was afraid of driving. She was afraid of leaving the house. You know, she always lived with fear when I could easily walk out and feel absolutely nothing, you know, just like, you know, I'm cold or I'm hungry. You know, those were my worries. My worry was never I'm going to get kicked out of the country or I'm going to go to jail for not having a specific paper. So I think that's how I would define it, like feeling safe in the United States for my, you know, my per my perspective, because growing up with parents who were always afraid of leaving the house compared to myself, where I can just walk out and feel like nothing. So I think that's what I would put put into perspective, I guess.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=80.55,132.27"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. And where are your parents from?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=134.22,137.58"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, my dad is from a small city in Mexico called Zacatecas. That's the state. And the city is called Hajji Pila. My mom is from Veracruz, which is a state. And the city would be the Ara Blanca, which would be called the White City because it's right next to the beach. And it's like very, very beautiful there. And that's pretty much it. They're from there. Both from Mexico.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=138.09,164.22"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Why'd they come here?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=165.57,166.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e They came here because living in Mexico was impossible. Like, it was just so impossible to live like, you know, my dad had to cross over here at the age of 18. Back then, it wasn't so big on on on safety. They were. They would let anybody in and out of the United States on the border. You know, ever since the 20 1121 happened with the whole 911. Ever since that time, that's when everything changed a lot. You know, I lived through it. I was old enough to live through it. But before then, my dad would cross like like nothing. He would work in the cornfields from six in the morning to, like, 7 p.m.. He would work 14, 15 hour shifts for just $30 $4 back then. My mom would have to stay in Mexico, raising my two younger brothers because I still wasn't born there. Everybody was born in Mexico except myself. But my mom wanted to always end up in the United States for a better life. So my dad came first. He was over here for like a year or two, and he would send money every single month and then eventually did end up crossing together with the kids and ended up staying in the United States.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=167.31,242.34"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/11","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And how was that experience for them that you know of?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=244.53,249.15"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/12","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e From what they told me, the experience on crossing over must have been probably like the worst experience of their life, specifically for my mom, because my mom tried crossing several times and maybe like on her fifth time, she she actually ended up crossing over. But the other four times she was put in jail. She was put in jail while being pregnant. She was put in jail several times because back then it was like you try to come over and the United States would just give you a, you know, a slap on the hand. Now it's if they catch you, you know, you're going to jail. So it's a lot of things have changed. But back then it was like everybody was trying to get and it wasn't such a big issue how it is now, my mom, how the worse experience from my dad. Because when finally the fifth time, when they finally end up crossing over, my mom brought both of my brothers. So the way they crossed, they have a river in Mexico. It's a famous river. I don't remember the name, but they call it in Rio. Then work there, which is the death, the deadly river. And the reason why they call it from what they've told me, from I've seen it, you know, in meat and in the news and everything is it's so it's a small river. It's not even like a big river. It's a small river. Maybe like it was like, I don't know, like maybe like 20 feet, but not that far from here to, like, that building, you know? And all they had to do was just swim through it. But the thing is that it was just like it was an awful, like, super crazy River rocks are going through it. Branches were going through. It was a crazy river that if you didn't know how to swim, even if you were an experienced swimmer and you try crossing it, you probably end up getting killed. So the way they did it is they would get the big tires like those big, big tires, like the big ones, those 18 wheeler ones, and they would tie a rope and pray to God that the rope would get stuck on a rock on the other side. And if they didn't get stuck on the rock, that was it. So it was a 5050 shot, you know, where they were going to cross and die or we're going to cross and live. So my mom took that chance in order for us to better our lives. And so my aunt was with her. So my mom and my two younger brothers, keep in mind, both of my brothers. One of them was maybe two years old and the other one was five years old. Children, babies. So what they did is my mom tied a rope, throw it over, threw it across the river, ended up making it, got stuck pretty got stuck. And then they got on top of it, too. And then what they did is they got on top of it to and from the rope. They were basically pulling themselves to the other side. So they it was just it just for two woman, you know, trying to pull themselves where the river's going at 50 miles per hour, you know, flipping, almost flipping the tire, you know, so like, scary. You know, from what my mom told me, she said she was the only thing on her mind was my kids are going to die. You know, that was her thing. Not even like the. Live a better life. I'm a, you know, get more money. Her thing was, what did I do? I'm going to kill my children. So her her thing was just like, I need to get across an cause. And thank God they ended up getting across. Got off the tire, and my mom grabbed my two younger brothers and ran, you know, because after that, it was just running basically through like, from what I remember how she told me, you cross the river and then you run through the desert for like a good maybe two or three miles. And then you were in the United States already, which was called Juarez. That's that's a city right before entering the United States on the border, you know, because there's also TJ, but it's more on the on the south side. The Juarez was more kind of towards near New Mexico, Texas, around that area. So they crossed through there, finally made it across. My dad was waiting for them, you know, and thank God that they made it. But it was just one of the most scariest things that my mom has ever told me that she experienced, that she just felt like in order for her to live a better life, she had to put herself and her kids in risk of dying in order to to see that, you know, like I need in order to bring myself a better future, my kids, I have to risk losing my kids and myself. But, you know, thank God, eventually it worked out. Crossing over metal with my father. My dad had a little bomb shelter, you know, like it wasn't even a shelter. It was just like a little wooden house. They had to sleep on the floor. They had no TV, no AC, no heater, just wood. They would just sleep on the floor. And then my dad and my mom started working on the fields. And then eventually they ended up meeting up with my mom's that they live in Sacramento and they end up working, working, working hard, and they ended up buying a little truck. At this time, you know, none of them have their papers, so they ended up buying everything in cash, you know, risking their lives to going to jail, getting deported. And they ended up driving from New Mexico all the way to Stockton, which is an up north in Sacramento. And then from there, that's when I ended up being born. But, you know, in Stockton. But by that time, they had already like moved in with my and lived in a bigger house, got better jobs. My dad became a citizen. The first thing he did was turn my brothers to citizens. And then my mom was the only one who didn't become a citizen til maybe 2000 or 2005 when she barely became a citizen. So that was probably around 1999. Between 1990 and 1994, that's when everything happened. The whole transitioning about coming to Mexico. And it because I was born in 1994, and by the time I was born, my dad already had a citizenship. My brothers did too, and we were already living in Stockton. So pretty much a pretty good five for your group that they had to suffer in order to, you know, come up in life in the United States, basically.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=249.63,610.04"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/13","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e And so you've just told me a lot about your family's struggles and challenges that they had to overcome and all the work that they had to put in to get themselves secure and safe. What are some of the challenges and struggles you face now growing up after they've accomplished these things?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=611.9,629.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/14","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Well, the biggest I think one of the biggest things I struggle with is I don't want to say I'm spoiled and say, well, you know, I have a lot, you know, that was given to me, which is true. You know, I was fortunate enough to to grow up in a house. I'd have to grow up in a house, not be hungry. I've never gone hungry, not one day. But the things that I feel like I struggle with more is the expectations that my parents have for me, which is they always put it into perspective. Well, you know, I did so much in order for you guys to grow up and do better. Like, why are you messing up? Even though I'm not messing up, you know, like, I'm 24 years old, You know, like I'm a manager. I make pretty good money. You know? I don't I don't I don't go to jail. I don't do criminals. I don't steal. But in her eyes, I, I feel like I'm not doing enough because she just has this whole perspective of I came over here for you to be a doctor, which is like, why? I don't want to be a doctor, You know, like, it's a lot of pressure for me to do so much just because they crossed over. And I'm very grateful. But it's just at the end of the day, coming from a family that's a very culture and have a different perspective on life. You know, like at 24, my mom had me and my two brothers. At 24, I'm still single. I have no kids, you know, And to her, that's like a waste of time, even though I'm always in time. So I think it may be more of the struggle of more into the family wise. But other than that, like, I feel like I didn't I didn't struggle growing up, like with materials, but I just feel like I'm struggling with inner emotions with my family because they expect so much. So it's like a. It's like a burden for me because they always they always call me out. You're the only one that was born here. Like, why are you. Why can't you spell correctly? You're the only one that was born here. Like, why did you grow? I grew up with a stuttering problem. I still have it to this day. I get it whenever I get nervous or really, really, really mad, I get. I stutter. And I even had to take speech classes when I was younger. And I always got called out. Like I always got called out for my brothers, teasing me and my family teasing me like, I don't understand why you can't speak if you're the only one that was born here just because they were born over there and they had to learn English. Okay, You know, but just because I was born here, they expected me to be number one. They expected me to be so much more that I could be. And I'm just like, it's not a lot I can give, but, you know, it's just a lot that they assume I should be doing just because I was the only one who was born here. It's like they're pushing me to do so much more, but I'm like, I'm trying and I feel like it's not good enough for them just because I was the only one that was born here rather than they were born in Mexico. So. Hm.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=630.53,796.59"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/15","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Earlier when you were talking, you were about how you define citizenship. You mentioned safety and support, and you mentioned it specifically having to do with rights. How does that translate over to what you just told me now about the pressures you feel? How does living in America help with that or contribute to that negatively or positively?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=797.35,824.26"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/16","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Positively, I would say be more on the positive side. You know, like I have the right to vote. I have the right to go to any school, I have the right to get any job. I have the right to walk out and say I'm Mexican-American, you know, first make, you know, American, American, Mexican, you know, Mexican-American. I honestly would put, you know, Mexican-American first, cause I grew up in a very in a mexican household. My parents are Mexican Latinos, you know, and I'd still define myself. I'm American like I am a very proud American. But I also have my roots of my culture. And it's just the safety that I feel, you know, like sometimes, don't get me wrong, you know, there's a lot of racism. There's a lot of people who don't like certain certain races, you know, And that's just the way we live. You know, It just depends on how you interact with different cultures, you interact with different races. But I just feel like it just affects me in a positive way because, I mean, I'm not going to say, you know, my skin color has a lot to do with it, but in the time that we live in, you know, if I've I've been I've been compared I've been I've been actually, you know, harassed, not myself, but I've been walking down the street with my brother. My brother is like ten times darker than I am. And I've been witnessed where I'm walking and I hear a bunch of man calling my brother a wet bag or a wet bag, and they look at me and they don't say absolutely nothing to me. Why? Maybe because my skin is light skinned. You know, they define me as a white man, even though they don't know me but that but then they're calling my brother a wetback, a wetback, a whip. I just because you start getting colder than me. So that's what I'm like. Sometimes I feel like it sucks, you know, because I'm I grew up with my family getting harassed when I'm just overlooked. Just because maybe I don't know my skin color, because I am the lightest one in my family. I'm white. I guess you can call me a white skin color and it sucks cause I'll go out and get her and my brother will get harassed. My dad will get harassed, but I'll be on the cool side just because of my my color. But as soon as I start to speak, you can clearly hear that I have an accent. And right then and there, that's when I get harassed as well because, oh, you can't say these words correctly or you know, you sound Mexican. Oh, I didn't know you can sound Mexican, you know. So it's it's it's a it's a pretty positive and negative effect. But in the long run, I still feel safe generally, you know, like generalized speaking that like I feel pretty safe in the United States. I feel safe where I am. I feel safe. You know, if I go to maybe a a rundown town in San Bernardino and there's a lot of blacks, I still wouldn't feel scared. If anything. I would just I wouldn't feel scared in the sense like, oh, like I'm scared as blacks. No, If anything, I'm scary like that. They think that I don't like blacks just because of how they put every race into perspective. Like all, you know, like a white doesn't like black, but I'm like, if anything, like I'm friends with all the races. But that's just how it just ends up being, you know, I don't really have a saying to it, but in the long run, I love my races, I love I'm friends with everybody, but nobody's going to stop harassment. Nobody's going to stop racism. It's just going to happen every single day. And in the long run, I've grown up to accept that my. In color and how I look really does affect a lot of the things I do compared to my family. Just because they're darker than me and they look Mexican, I guess from what they say. And it's just that's just how it is. I've got to accept it. It's pretty harsh, but that's just the reality of it. Pretty harsh. Pretty, pretty messed up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=825.28,1056.6"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/17","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e It is in the moment. You are also talking about how you have a very Mexican family, culture, traditions and heritage. But then you also have that American culture, that American heritage. How do you how do you interpret where these two combined? How is that for you at home? And then how is that for you in your social life?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=1057.98,1090.23"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/18","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I feel like at home, of course, at home, you know, if I get home, I need to start speaking Spanish, you know, like as soon as I walk into the door, you know, the first thing I do is, you know, go. Go to my mom's room. Go look, look for my mom, you know, say hi to her. And, you know, that's the very first thing coming up as a in a mexican home, in a Hispanic home is the very first thing you should do when you're walking in through any door is find the elders, give them a hug and, you know, give him a kiss on the cheek. You know, that's just what we're brought up as. So the first thing I do, you know, when I walk in the door, find my mom, hug her, because when she and then I need to speak to her in Spanish. And the thing about me is that I struggle a lot speaking in Spanish because it's it's hard. I can speak it, but I can't speak it fluently. I can understand it perfectly. I can write it. Okay. But speaking it, it like I my words get stuck. And then sometimes when I'm conversating with my mom, I have to jump into Spanish and jump into English. And then that frustrates my mom, which gets her angry just because I can't speak Spanish the way she wants to speak, you know? But it's hard because I'm most of my everyday life. I speak English, but she expects Spanish. But they already understand, you know, like I'm the only one out of the family who can't speak Spanish, like on the dot. My other two brothers can have a conversation for 24 hours speaking Spanish. I, on the other hand, I get frustrated, I get angry, and then I start to raise my voice just because I can't speak Spanish correctly. And then, um, other things like when I leave the house, I still live with my Mexican cultures, but my Mexican roots, if I see an elder, I jump into action and, you know, help them out. That's one big thing. The Mexican culture we respect our elders so much is just like, it's crazy. Like, so I'll be like walking down the street and I see an old man needing help or he needs help. I'll just jump in and be like, Well, what do you need? Or you know, I'll just jump in in Spanish, you know, like, what? Do you need any help with this? Like, it's just a natural instinct, you know? And I've seen other people who just walk pass by and not even give a, you know, not not care. But in my culture, we are the elders are the most important things to us. And that's where I jump in. I'll be helping others. Holidays to holidays, for example, Christmas, it's coming up. We don't celebrate the 25th. We don't take the 25th. That's correct. The 25th is not Christmas. The 24th is what we celebrate. So a lot of people are like, oh, we're going to do that together. Like want to celebrate the 25th? I celebrate 24th and they just look at me weird, like, Well, Christmas is 25th. I'm like, Yes. And the American, you know, it's and you say that's just what they do in the 25th. But the most important day for us is the 24th. So, I mean, that is also like it's not a conflict, but it's you know, it's a little bit different like that that shows my roots and then it shows my American, you know, I celebrate both days, but the day that actually counts is the 24th, but I also celebrate the 25th just because it's an actual holiday. Um, what else? Halloween. Halloween is also really important. And, um, and in our culture, more of actually praising the dead rather than Halloween in the United States it's you know, party and trick or treating and candy, you know, that's what it's known as party party party Halloween party going out trick or treating scary stuff. And in the Mexican culture, Mexican, we praise the dead. We we do dances for the dead. You know, we we miss the dead. You know we love the dead. Like it's totally different the way we celebrate it, you know? Well, they call them Christmas us. In Mexico, which is basically short for like little parties as well, too. But instead of actually partying and getting wasted and focusing on your outfits, we actually sing to the dead. Um. Not a conflict. Just different, you know, Mexican cultures. American. Oh, that's probably one of the biggest holidays for us. Pretty much is the same thing is just, you know, I basically always and will forever walk around as an American, but with my Mexican roots, always. It's just that's just who I am. You know, like, my mom has always told me, you know, like my mom was very, very, very honest. She was always very, very disciplinarian. And then she discipline us on everything. And I just basically grew with Mexican roots inside the house. But as soon as I stepped out, I knew stepping out that door that I was American. But I also in the back of my mind and in my blood, I'm I know I'm Mexican, but when I talk to somebody, like if I if I talk to like, you know, like a Caucasian, I'm I'm more white. But if I talk to a, you know, a mexican, you know, my roots come out way more, I'm way more comfortable. I'm way more myself. And when I speak to, like, you know, a black, I still feel myself, you know, like with some, you know, this map or just kind of want to speak more to a Caucasian side. I just hold back more and I just more Americanized, I guess, from what you said, you know, a little I, I basically changed the way I act with different races just because I. I feel like it's necessary.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=1090.95,1437.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/19","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Okay. Final question. Earlier, we talked about your definition of citizenship and overall, how it's about rights, how it's about safety, how it's about security, living the life that you have, seeing how your family has gone, what your family has gone through, and how they have gotten to the point in which they are at now. Is there anything that you believe that citizenship should also extend to how that definition may need to expand in the future?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=1439.51,1472.18"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/20","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes, I definitely agree that citizenship should be given to somebody who's been in the United States working, has gotten in trouble, is living a like a quiet life. It's just working. You know, like nowadays, even if you have somebody working 20 years that's been hiding but working and hasn't had any criminals, if anything even gives back to the community, they get deported. And it's just not fair. Like they just the way they want it is either you're born here or you take a test. And that's I mean, I get it. I was born here. I got the right my mom and my parents and my brothers. They had to study, learn English, and then take the test and then a passing, you know, of course, you know, in order for you to become a citizen, I totally agree. You need to know about our country. You need to know the laws and you need to know, I guess from what they put into perspective what an American is like, you know, But it's like if I go to Mexico, I'm like, Oh, this is how a mexican is, or this is how how people in France or this is how London people are like Asians. We're all people. It's just the different laws and the different regulations and the policies and the definitions of everyone and the labels everyone puts on everybody. That just makes it so hard for someone to feel accepted and for someone to feel safe at home. You know, there's people at home relaxing, watching TV. Ice comes in, breaks their door and says, You're getting deported for what? Just, you know, just just just to get deported when there's people who who do have their papers, who go out and do killings and rapes and all that, and they're still here. It just shows a lot that we we as a country and we as people that honestly just we're just getting by. We're just diversion ourselves into different groups rather than helping each other out. And even so, when we help each other out, something bad comes out of it. So I honestly really do feel that maybe in the long run, just also depending on the president, you know, like that has a lot to do with that. You know, somebody who we should follow is giving us basically permission to be racist and, you know, do stuff that we know is not right. But being oblivious to it just shows that one's mind can be changed because somebody tells you different things. You know, some people are so gullible, some people follow orders, some people do what they want to do. And that's totally okay. That's that's the thing. That's the way that's the thought that America. Because being given, you know, home of the free freedom of speech, freedom to do this, freedom to do this. But at the end of the day, when it comes down to it, do we really have that freedom? I mean, you know, there's people walking around being scared just because they look Muslim. There's people walking around scared because they look black. There's people walking around because they're scared because they're gonna get deported rather than to be enjoying just their life. They got to worry about the government. And you will see right now it's kind of tough everywhere. It's kind of tough. But I mean, I just hope in the future that they change the laws. But hopefully I get to see that one day because when I was younger, anybody could walk in and out. 2001 happened, 911 happened. You know, like they started it just everything changed ever since 2001. As bad as it sounds, you know, Muslims and Arabs have been looked at so bad since 2001, because before that, I mean, it was an open issue. And now after that, it's just it's look bad, even though it's just their religion or the way they look or they, you know, whatever it is. But as we go on and as we get older, I just feel like it's just we have so much to say. But at the end of the day, it just takes a pen and a paper to change everything. And that usually comes out from the government. So it's hard, but I feel safe and I know other people. Other people don't feel safe, but that's just the way it is. Some people get lucky, so people don't. And I honestly can consider myself that. I'm very, very lucky. I'm very lucky to be here and to be a citizen.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=1473.89,1737.49"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/21","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e All right. Thank you so much.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=1740.79,1741.78"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/22","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e All right.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665#t=1742.14,1742.29"}]},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658","type":"AnnotationPage","label":{"en":["English [Transcript]"]},"items":[{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1674/collection_resources/56856/file/207665/transcript/49658/annotation/23","type":"Annotation","motivation":"subtitling","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/658/original/open-uri20230914-2017634-jp2sxl?1694717597","format":"text/vtt","language":"en"},"target":"https://d9jk7wjtjpu5g.cloudfront.net/file_transcripts/associated_files/000/049/658/original/open-uri20230914-2017634-jp2sxl?1694717597"}]}]}]}