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I grew up in Mexico. I came here when I was nine. So when you're learning a new language, even in school, you just you just transfer the verbatim what that word means. So why is Black Negros Negro and not even black? But it was another way, another form of, say, Negro. So it was very just more matter of fact, like, that's just what it is. So in Mexico, it was it was it was just like, you know, it was Negros on neighbors. It it, it it there was a phrase in Mexico that we would use, which is that I was called Negro, which meant, like you worked so hard, connected and connecting it to slavery. Meaning that without really understanding the context of slavery, family knew that it existed at one point and that Negro mean that you were forced labor. So when you work so hard, it's like, I mean, you know, now there was no black people around, you know, you didn't grow up among black people. My mom is fair skinned, green eyes light. My whole family is very fair skinned. So I grow very privileged in that sense. But also seeing how the people that work for us at one point in Mexico, where darker skinned either from Oaxaca or other folks, so darker skinned, so unintentionally, visually, it was reinforced that lighter skinned with a higher class, then the darker skinned, you know, a subclass, which meant you work hard, you know, common Negro. So it's like, oh, they're just laborers. And then the were my yet is a little is a beetle that we have and you know and in Mexico they grab a beetle and they tie it up and they have it as a point. Yeah. So there were miyata literally, it's the beetle in Mexico, but it's also a beetle that you tie up to. And you have it as entertainment when you have it with you at all times. Mm hmm. So that was just a very racialized space. But common company is common like it is what it is, which is racist. And we you see black as inferior and we see them as laborers and we see yet that's a beetle that you tie up and you go you play with. So that was that the word at the end of the word Negro growing up.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=9.66,168.53"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/4","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e The word my up in reference to in reference to the word [Unrecognized]. Did you hear it for the first time here in the United.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=169.97,177.5"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/5","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Yes. It didn't happen in Mexico.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=177.95,179.51"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/6","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e Can you tell me a little more about that story, how you felt? Who was it directed to?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=179.94,184.4"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/7","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e I came here in 1992. Me Right. Right after the civil unrest in South Central L.A., I came for vacation just for a few days. My mom had domestic abuse in Mexico, so my older brothers, who were already here told her, You know what? If you stay, we'll help you out, we'll support you, we'll figure something out. And that became my journey of being undocumented after that. But in that in that space, in that context of South L.A., I expected to come to Beverly Hills or see Mickey Mouse. Where this happened. There was a perception of what what L.A. is, what Hollywood is and the way that Hollywood is marketed throughout the world as this dominant white, elite, wealthy, happy, joyous world. And even though we are across the street and almost across the street, across the border, we we marketed that constantly. So that was my vision of of of this country. And I use the word Negro and black on me as like a reference to laborers or people that have a subclass from my country. So coming here, it was just with that concept, it was reinforced by seeing it, meaning that if you come from a place that already instills in you through our media with no violence, only white people in the subclass are the touches, work, cleaning and all that. Then you come here. Senior stuff. I was like, Oh, I'm, I'm part of the higher class, which is the concept of citizenship. I'm just coming to have what I really have this, this, this privilege of. I just want my citizenship the way they've always had it, understanding that unintentionally we have been racialized too, to suppress a our black community. So coming here, when I heard the word Armenian as my ethics, it was like, Oh, okay, so like, so class, working class. They're black. My job, they're like, okay, makes sense. It makes sense how we would use a subclass to a beetle that we're grabbing and like, who doesn't have access to or it's kind of like frantically trying to escape South-Central. In 1982, our black community was frantically trying to escape. So they look distraught. They look distressed. There was a lot of despair in their eyes. There was a lot of turmoil, a lot of mental instability. 1992 meant that South Central may have been already taken, burnt down. The police have come in. In the eighties, there was the war on drugs. So you could see the effects on on their eyes, on their bodies. On their anxiety level and their instability. Right. So it was just reinforcing visually. But I had already been hearing, which was this, a subgroup, a subgroup, unstable, unable to take care of themselves, unable to like, think creatively or peacefully. They eat meat, right? So that's why they're savages. They they don't know how to interact with people, so stay away from them. Right? So it was just reinforcing small phrases that had already been told to me in Mexico constantly in there was not just visually corroborating what we had heard all my life. Okay. So it just became even more normalized. There was no sense of distinguishing contexts or trying to analyze. There was no conversation of but why? It was just more matter of fact, you've heard this your whole life, therefore it is true. So so the word [Unrecognized] and negro was actually pretty commonly used in my household. Um, you know, it was this concept of like teaching negro, ultra negro, you know, like, like the idea of bettering your and LA, you know, even with our own colors. Then as Latinos I came in for La Raza means like, you have to get lighter skinned as a Latino, right? Any of you have a darker sibling thinking must be adopted. So there's a lot to instill colors and within Latinos. So that also helped with like reinforcing the concept of like a strong Negro like shirt is just fucking up displays. Even that those were not exactly. It would be a much better place if how's the you know, how's the environment of you ask other neighbors or Latinos was getting better. There's less Negroes, you know so in the eighties in the nineties you saw not only in Mexico through media and everything, but here in this country constantly reinforce the concept as the the the dominant the dominant narrative in media was this big black [Unrecognized] going to be threatening to kill you or rape you or any of those things. The welfare of mom, right? The welfare and negative life is just using the welfare resources. And here you come on documentarian pushing through and like look at them abusing the system and you don't need to do that. Um, the young negrete, those don't care. They're just fucking in breaking everything, you know? Like, you got to push them out of your area because they'll just create chaos. The young folks who don't take advantage of their education or take advantage of the citizenship, like trying to get that and they don't know how to use it or they are like, be grateful for it. Instead, they just like are lazy, you know, they're not doing anything about it. They're just hanging out, smoking weed and not caring about their own life or anybody else's. So coming from a very rich, racist country who has already had already created that notion through media and our own narrative, it was just reinforce, like visually seeing the aftermath of like ongoing suppression or oppression. And this in literally the the, the way that our black community was behaving in in the nineties. Right. So it became very normalized and he made perfect sense. It was like, I know this and look at it. It's just it matches what was already instilled in me as a young kid. So to be yeah. To be. Yeah. Right. I have.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=187.1,560.95"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/8","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 1:\u003c/strong\u003e A question. I know the word Negro. You first heard it and learned it in Mexico. What moment did you realize that you were not a Negro?","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=561.97,572.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/9","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eUnidentified:\u003c/strong\u003e I went to a.","format":"text/plain"},"target":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919#t=579.13,581.41"},{"id":"https://archive.empathyarchive.com/collections/1733/collection_resources/56758/file/130919/transcript/49448/annotation/10","type":"Annotation","motivation":"transcribing","body":{"type":"TextualBody","value":"\u003cstrong\u003eSpeaker 2:\u003c/strong\u003e Private school in Mexico City, and in this private school I could already feel the privilege of being lighter skinned. Um. There was a moment it was even before elementary. Chinook watching the Chinook watching on negative or something like that. There was a really young kid who was the darker skinned of all of us who actually were going to trash and find trash. So it was like Chinook, which, you know, Negro like we've been like saying it like it was just normal. Like, like, oh, of course, is going to get crash. Of course it's not going to be better dressed. He was black. Yeah. And it was like, oh, okay. But I could already see the, the, the spaces. When I went to private school, then I went the public school was not open to for private school anymore. When it wasn't public school, there weren't that many lighter skinned folks. There was predominantly darker skinned people. And I felt that I did not belong there. There was like this sense of like, why am I being brought to a lower class? Why am I being brought down with just the folks who don't deserve what I was getting? So to me, it was instilled as a sense of privilege, as a sense of like, you deserve this. And they don't. And it was very, very obvious by the spaces. So in public school, I was doing theater, I was doing music. I was I was accessing all these great things. And when I went to predominantly darker spaces, there was none of that. The teachers were angry all the time. The food was horrible. And it was just like this reinforcement of, I'm around these folks. I'm I'm going to get this very low quality of everything. But if I'm accessing a space where I feel welcome, like I get a better quality of life and I'm happier and I'm achieving even more. And so I started seeing the the the surrounding spaces connected to how you would feel and who deserves that and doesn't deserve that. Okay. Yeah. So that's that. And that was in Mexico that I'm living here. Here it was just like, um, reinforce, I think at one point when I started really questioning it. One obviously when I was 16 here, it was like, oh, coming into a space that didn't even hear her thing. It was like when I was in school, it was me challenging whether there really are like, as we say, they are like those, you know, savages. So it was interacting with them and being like, Oh, you are not like those, you know, using those very deregulatory, like even statements. Oh, you are not like those, those meaning everything that I've been taught since I was going to, I was nine in my country and then coming here to this country, reinforced by my immediate push of really having a very negative perception of the black community, it was like, Oh, you are not like those that I've been pushed to believe my whole life. Mm hmm. And it was just accessing spaces where I could interact with black community that was slowly shit, like chipping away at my my unconscious absorption of, like, a very derogatory perception of our black community. Um, and then my status of being undocumented helped a lot. Had I not been undocumented and have been connected with my privilege and the skin color, it would have been very difficult to even want to be questioning my own privilege. Mm hmm. So the fact that I was undocumented in a predominately poor and black community, and then you begin to question my feelings of inferiority in their surrounding again, like I did when I was in Mexico in a school of like, wait, this school of this area also does not look like a better area. Similar to the school when I went to public school, did not look like a private school. So I started feeling those emotions again of like the environment was triggering a negative emotion. It was reinforcing like how people felt. And I wanted to fight against that feeling that the environment was pushing me to, to, to be part of. Um, yeah. So it's a, it's a long journey. I still don't think I'm fully there. Even though I work for a Black and Brown organization, I think that they have to push on words and narratives are so strong that even if you even I mean, even me, who grew up in South Central, a predominant black community, I work for a black man organization. I don't think you can fully be not a racist if you graduate from a high school in L.A. In this country, it's almost impossible to not be racist if you graduate from high school that everything you read reinforces that, that it's that white superiority. It that's your ultimate goal in media and our media class. Latinos are really not helping at all. And I think this concept of Latinos being it or like finally. He's reinforcing the opposite of Let's get together. When BlackLivesMatter happened, there was no Latinos out there and no Latinos whatsoever in terms of like big organizations. That said, Black Lives does matter. Neither Univision nor Telemundo did that. Neither the big Edmonton Mexicana or Latino or Chile or organizations that speak for equity or for those that need help. They did not do that and they haven't done so. Neither does our president. And Mexico confirms that we are racist or says black lives does matter. Last year, two years ago, after all, Mexicans were finally accepted. So I think it was I think it's it's very difficult as a Latino also to be surrounded by Latinos that unintentionally reinforce our own Latino by pushing our people, but instilling black sentiment in it. So I think it's an ongoing choice. It's it has to is very difficult, especially that the light skinned Latino and especially you in South L.A. were not, you see, from 80% black to 60% Latino. The shift in demographics is happening very rapidly and people are still very racist. Latinos are still very racist. And we're not we're not saying it. We're choosing to play on our privilege. And I do understand that as Latinos, we do have to focus on ourselves to understand us. But we're doing it at the expense of pushing out our black community. So I think it's a it's very difficult and it's an individual choice constantly to work on it. And we just don't have access to those spaces unless you have a black and brown organization, which this is the only one in South L.A., in L.A., and almost like the second one, California. California, the majority is Latino. So when we sometimes we keep putting ourselves in very Latino spaces unintentionally. We are not experimenting with the other as we having pushed them. Understand. So, yeah, so it's it's a it's a it's a it's a pickle. So I think we have to we make a conscious effort when we talk about DOCA, when we talk about immigration, like how that has been a group that has constantly be be more on privilege. So the fact that I got my presidency last year and became a residency person this year, my life transformed like radically. I was able to buy a house. I was able to increase my credit score. Right. And I have the privilege of being called this label, Beautiful Dreamer, which is like, all right. So not only are we putting down our own families and the 11 million of undocumented under that, we're not even talking about the other the black undocumented community. Like, it's almost like, oh, we'll talk about it later. And we're choosing not to. So I think unintentionally, we keep reinforcing the word [Unrecognized] as like it is what it is, and we just want to talk about it, you know, because we're still working on making sure we get our papers. Okay. So it's not even a topic. It's not even a concept. It's not even something that we're really working on. It's not something that we're trying to eradicate in the Latino community. Is that's something that we are intentionally wanting to do before ourselves because we're still in this privileged wave of, like me, accessing spaces like this to keep talking about my Latino ness and documentaries. But we there's yet to be a space for our black undocumented folks to have that space or the billboards of that gap to say, what of our black doctor recipients? Right. So in every single space, even when we were trying to help or be progressive, like unintentionally, we're reinforcing the anti-black sentiment and the ongoing normalization of [Unrecognized] as a as a black, as an as a social group that should not access even this conversation or investigations. They should still kind of wait at the end. 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